Aaron Judge the new Mickey Mantle?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

I remember people saying Strasburg was a bust because he's not Sandy Koufax. Strasburg is a 3 time all star, silver slugger winner, and has a career K rate over 10 per 9 innings. I'd say that's pretty good but other people might say it's not good enough.

Judge will certainly win the ROY award this year and he's a starting all star. That's pretty good. Maybe he won't be a HOFer, but if he hits 30 homers a year for the next 4 or 5 seasons I'll be thrilled.

Strasburg had unlimited potential when he came up -- a 100 MPH fastball that moved and that he could spot, and a wicked breaking ball. Plus the maturity of a 30 year old on the mound. He was that once or twice in a generation pitcher and then some. Yes, he is still good, but he is a ghost of who he could have been had he not blown his elbow out IMO.

[pokerplyr80]

It may be too early to call him the next Mantle, but the way the ball flies off his bat is amazing. I have spent more time watching Yankees games in the last couple of weeks than I've watched baseball in the last few years. It's been fun getting into the modern game again.

Check out this article. The Marlins consulted NASA engineers to build a roof that could not be hit. He hit it twice.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/...asa-equations/

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It may be too early to call him the next Mantle, but the way the ball flies off his bat is amazing. I have spent more time watching Yankees games in the last couple of weeks than I've watched baseball in the last few years. It's been fun getting into the modern game again.

Check out this article. The Marlins consulted NASA engineers to build a roof that could not be hit. He hit it twice.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/...asa-equations/

It makes you wonder if Mantle had been 6"8" and 285 lbs what he might could have done hitting a baseball... Let's pump the brakes a bit on Judge, way to early. As it was, Mantle was 5'11" 180 lbs and was the fastest runner in baseball before he blew out his knee, and could hit a baseball 500 feet....

[ullmandds]

I'm a lifelong Yankees fan and while I usually follow the yankees I've been watching and listening to most games when I can...thank you MLB.com. Mainly because the yanks have an exciting young team...and obviously judge is a big factor.

He's jeter on steroids. If he can stack together a nice career without any huge injuries...he will amass impressive #'s. I could see 40 hr 100 rbi being .300 ba being the norm for Aaron for a good long time!!

And I'm guessing when he signs his next big contract with the yankees he will be the next Captain!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I'm a lifelong Yankees fan and while I usually follow the yankees I've been watching and listening to most games when I can...thank you MLB.com. Mainly because the yanks have an exciting young team...and obviously judge is a big factor.

He's jeter on steroids. If he can stack together a nice career without any huge injuries...he will amass impressive #'s. I could see 40 hr 100 rbi being .300 ba being the norm for Aaron for a good long time!!

And I'm guessing when he signs his next big contract with the yankees he will be the next Captain!

Thanks Pete, would you dare compare him to Mantle?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

It makes you wonder if Mantle had been 6"8" and 285 lbs what he might could have done hitting a baseball... Let's pump the brakes a bit on Judge, way to early. As it was, Mantle was 5'11" 180 lbs and was the fastest runner in baseball before he blew out his knee, and could hit a baseball 500 feet....

I would like to understand what the story was on Judge when he was 20-24, from what I see his numbers were pretty mediocre, how do you go from being an at best above average minor leaguer to a superstar as a rookie at 25? That is a WTF for me to this point, but perhaps people have good explanations. It seems rather unprecedented but again perhaps not. Anyhow I agree with Kevin it's way too early to anoint him anything.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would like to understand what the story was on Judge when he was 20-24, from what I see his numbers were pretty mediocre, how do you go from being an at best above average minor leaguer to a superstar as a rookie at 25? That is a WTF for me to this point, but perhaps people have good explanations. It seems rather unprecedented but again perhaps not. Anyhow I agree with Kevin it's way too early to anoint him anything.

I agree...Where is this all coming from all of a sudden on his stats? Things that make you go hmmmm.

[ullmandds]

aaron judge isn't a switch hitter so how could he be compared to mantle?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I agree...Where is this all coming from all of a sudden on his stats? Things that make you go hmmmm.

I just don't know. Maybe he somehow closed up a hole in his swing, or finally learned to keep his hands back? Maybe it was one of those situations where he was just a subtle adjustment away and someone finally worked on it with him? It is odd. Anyhow, especially given that he had a number of not so productive years, we just need to wait and see.

[jfkheat]

How many "next Mickey Mantles" have their been in the last 25-30 years? I first remember hearing that with Greg Jefferies. I'm sure there were other players before Jefferies. I don't know how many there have been since Jefferies but it seems like every few years a player comes along that is the "next Mantle".

James

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

How many "next Mickey Mantles" have their been in the last 25-30 years? I first remember hearing that with Greg Jefferies. I'm sure there were other players before Jefferies. I don't know how many there have been since Jefferies but it seems like every few years a player comes along that is the "next Mantle".

James

Bobby Murcer certainly. I think Kirk Gibson was spoken of in those terms. Kevin Maas maybe.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

It makes you wonder if Mantle had been 6"8" and 285 lbs what he might could have done hitting a baseball... Let's pump the brakes a bit on Judge, way to early. As it was, Mantle was 5'11" 180 lbs and was the fastest runner in baseball before he blew out his knee, and could hit a baseball 500 feet....

No argument here. Were it not for injuries I think Mantle and Griffey would have been in the discussion with Ruth for greatest of all time. Although for anyone to top the babe he'd have to be able to pitch too.

Half a season has never got anyone into the HOF. But from what I've seen so far of Judge I think he will have a great career and could end up being the face of baseball for the next 10 years. Time will tell. For now I'm just enjoying the show.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Just noticed Judge only has 13 2b so far. That seems really low for a power hitter, what's up with that?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just noticed Judge only has 13 2b so far. That seems really low for a power hitter, what's up with that?

They haven't moved the fences back yet.

[bnorth]

I doubt Judge is the new Mantle. He does appear to be a version of Chili Davis in 1991, great first half and couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat the second half.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just noticed Judge only has 13 2b so far. That seems really low for a power hitter, what's up with that?

FYI:

Though different eras, Mickey didn't have a lot of doubles during his career.




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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

FYI:

Though different eras, Mickey didn't have a lot of doubles during his career.




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Interesting. You would think with his power Mantle would have driven a ton of balls up the gaps. I would love to hear a theory. Injuries maybe, he was just afraid to leg out hits?