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Old 07-11-2017, 10:47 AM
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are blind!!! I can see from the scan a mile away the card is short! DUH!

at least sgc knows their shit, they might miss a card, but psa doesn't know a blue old mill from a brown old mill

you have to "know" what you are grading.....you need to understand the set, especially accurate labeling....

hire someone with PASSION PSA!!! WTF
Just because a card is short doesn't mean it was trimmed. Plenty came short from the factory, just as others were cut with large borders (and sometimes two names) from the factory.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:03 AM
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t206 cards do fall out of the parameters of 1 7/16 " by 2 5/8 " occasionally, but more probability correlates to trimming....psa graders are blind! they are just starting to understand the set, where as sgc has always been ahead of the curve......4 to 1 misgrades to sgc on average

GET THEM SOME EYEGLASES!
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:11 AM
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btw...not you to get glassespsa graders to get glasses....I see so many obvious mistakes on psa t206 holders, it's ridiculous....

usually 1/16" deviation from standard parameters is acceptable....looks like a really short top border and a relatively standard bottom border from the scan....id gamble over 1/16 " short

psa should measure the cards accurately! if it fell within the acceptable parameters, sgc would have graded that puppy even if factory cut short

most t206 I see factory cut out of standard dimensions are oversized rather than factory cut short as the norm(not like it isn't possible tho, just unlikely)

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It's amasing get it graded, take it out, get it regraded. Guys must like making the TPG companies rich and wasting your money. Basicly 3 grading companies out there control the whole thing and guys rely on the word as gospel. If you get it graded be happy and move on. To much time wasted and the TPG companies laughing all the way to the bank.

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It's amasing get it graded, take it out, get it regraded. Guys must like making the TPG companies rich and wasting your money. Basicly 3 grading companies out there control the whole thing and guys rely on the word as gospel. If you get it graded be happy and move on. To much time wasted and the TPG companies laughing all the way to the bank.
When a 1 grade bump can be a quarter million or more dollars, it's not only the TPGs laughing.

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btw...not you to get glassespsa graders to get glasses....
haha, I'm sure I could use them too, like when I can't find something and I complain to my wife and turns out it was right in front of my face

but back on topic, my only points were that it SGC didn't find any evidence of trimming (otherwise they would've checked the "evidence of trimming" block), that its *possible* the card came short from the factory, and that the card measured short by an amount bigger than SGC was comfortable giving a grade. Neither TPG found evidence of trimming, but SGC covered their backside.
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funny you should mention that.....I thought of the same thing! without seeing the edges and measuring, I would bet its trimmed....was wondering why sgc didn't check trimmed?? or altered??? but covering their butt put that ???
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