PWCC 10 Retraction Rule

[Peter_Spaeth]

How hard is it to monitor your (you fill in the blank) most expensive auctions? Especially with an (alleged) full time hire who is (allegedly) monitoring auctions for fraud? The ones I posted today were in their top five auctions and took less than a minute to find.

Yes, ebay is at fault, but so is PWCC.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

She is real. I spoke with her on the phone several months ago and expressed some big concerns.

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I knew as soon as Betsy told us that they were instituting a 10 retraction rule that they would regret it. As long as ebay allows it to happen it's going to happen and there are going to be bidders that abuse it. How many auctions do they have running at any one time? There is no way one person can monitor that especially in the sports card hobby where the percentage of slimeballs is extremely high. I would think that there could be some third party software developed to catch bid retractions and automatically send warnings or block bidders, it can't be that difficult to implement. But just like Ebay, PWCC doesn't really want bid retractors blocked from bidding.

And all along I thought "Betsy" was a bat purchased to knock all those slime balls out of the park while barefoot.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How hard is it to monitor your (you fill in the blank) most expensive auctions? Especially with an (alleged) full time hire who is (allegedly) monitoring auctions for fraud? The ones I posted today were in their top five auctions and took less than a minute to find.

Yes, ebay is at fault, but so is PWCC.

PWCC doesn't really care. Stuff trumps all, they know that. They are helped more than they are harmed by bid retractors. There have been Net54 posters in these threads who criticize and still admit they are consigning to them. Some of the loudest Mastro/Legendary critics were still bidding in their auctions all the way to the end even though they knew fraud was happening.

Change will come from the buyers saying no, but that ain't ever happening.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dan, you likely are right, but that makes it all the more offensive to come on here and make a pious high-profile display of allegedly trying to stop fraud.

And Frank, this is a serious thread son. Get thee back to the watercooler.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dan, you likely are right, but that makes it all the more offensive to come on here and make a pious high-profile display of allegedly trying to stop fraud.

And Frank, this is a serious thread son. Get thee back to the watercooler.

Mastro did the same thing. And the only thing that will stop PWCC is an arrest. Which could happen.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Mastro did the same thing. And the only thing that will stop PWCC is an arrest. Which could happen.

It won't happen from bid retractions. It is A-Okay to retract as many bids as your heart desires on ebay.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

It won't happen from bid retractions. It is A-Okay to retract as many bids as your heart desires on ebay.

Who said it has anything to do with bid retractions? Last I checked retracting bids is not listed in the U.S. Code.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Who said it has anything to do with bid retractions? Last I checked retracting bids is not listed in the U.S. Code.

Been talking to Cortney?

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Mastro did the same thing. And the only thing that will stop PWCC is an arrest. Which could happen.

That's an awfully bold statement for the only transparent large scale AH in our business. If the crime is having retracted bids in your actions, you might as well back up the paddy wagon to all the AH's.

Fact is, all AH's are whores, advertising their goods to the world. Asking any AH to block a seller is like asking a lawyer not to send a bill; ain't gonna happen.

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

"you might as well back up the paddy wagon"

Are we now assuming THaT ALL of These Retractions are CumiN from the Irish?

[Edwolf1963]

Update and to be fair, I received a message back from PWCC today ..

"Thank you for reaching out. You are correct, this user ID is in violation of our bid retraction policy. We have placed a block on this user ID and have retracted their bid on this listing."

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Mastro did the same thing. And the only thing that will stop PWCC is an arrest. Which could happen.

And you are going to represent him right?

[Jeffrompa]

wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.