Is this Fountain Pen?

[drcy]

As is my saying, "It's your money."

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by drcy

As is my saying, "It's your money."

I obviously do not want a fake which is why I am asking.

Originally Posted by Michael B

This looks like a Flair pen written within the last few months and scuffed to look old. Fountain pen would have aged along with the ball. I would guess that if you put this under a UV light the writing would glow showing the ink is post WWII/atomic bomb era. Also, if the person who wrote this lived in Chicago it is not very likely they would misspell the name of the city - 'Chicogo'.

Here are photos under a black light. Let me know your analysis please.

[drcy]

If you can't infer from posts, my vote would be pass.

If you really want an old time game used ball, I'd get one with exceptional and iron clad provenance, such as from a player's estate. There also are trophy balls-- painted up or signed by the team--, that were usually used in the game. Though provenance for these still is important. They can be found (follow the big auctions and respected dealers) and exist for both baseballs and footballs.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by drcy

If you can't infer from posts, my vote would be pass.

If you really want an old time game used ball, I'd get one with exceptional and iron clad provenance. There also are trophy balls-- painted up or signed by the team--, that were usually used in the game. They can be found and exist for both baseballs and footballs.

Cool Thanks. I hate how many people try to pass off fakes. I just could not do that to someone.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Cool Thanks. I hate how many people try to pass off fakes. I just could not do that to someone.

Reasonably provable antique game used balls do exist and you can pick up one sometime if you want one. If you're a college football fan, there are fair number of antique college football trophy balls-- though I think you should purchase one from a respected veteran dealer or auction house, rather than a random seller.

[Scott Garner]

The short answer is no!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Yes I do. I got it off ebay. The auction stated "This ball was looked at by an individual who works for Leland's Auction Company and it was in his opinion that this is a real game used ball from the 1920's"

Guess he lied.

The Eddie Collins part didn't really bother me if someone made it up but it was relative to that time period (kids lieing etc) however the fact that this now seems to be a doctored ball made to look old pisses me off.

The ball matched the period, but I did not realize how bold this writing was until I saw it in person. Looked like marker, but I am not a expert so wanted opinions before I contacted the seller.

Thanks for all the opinions guys. You helped me out with the ball tremendously. I will be contacting the seller and letting him know it is not what he says it is.

[drcy]

If you buy an item from a well known and respected seller, that is part of the provenance. As I tell people, if you buy an item from a well respected source, when you turn to resell it you will be able to advertise that it came from a well respected source.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by drcy

If you buy an item from a well known and respected seller, that is part of the provenance. As I tell people, if you buy an item from a well respected source, when you turn to resell it you will be able to advertise that it came from a well respected source.

I totally agree.

Just thought it looked really nice. Once I got it in front of me it felt wrong.

Also, the under bidder had 17,000+ feedback so I felt confident as a dealer was most likely chasing this too.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

I totally agree.

Just thought it looked really nice. Once I got it in front of me it felt wrong.

Also, the under bidder had 17,000+ feedback so I felt confident as a dealer was most likely chasing this too.

It's modestly interesting that the underbidder that you speak of only bid once. His bid was placed 4 seconds after your bid.

You can fool some of the boys some of the time, but not this old "boy".