True Pre-War Rookie Cards

[darwinbulldog]

Agreed. It's a rookie issue but not a rookie card or any other kind of card.

[darwinbulldog]

Phil also put this list together. As you can see, he lists the 1905 W601 for Cobb.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=128179

[h2oya311]

I'm biased, but I consider this to be Cobb's rookie...it has an undivided postcard back and it pictures him w/ George Parquette, a jeweler from Augusta, Georgia, in 1905.

On August 25th, 1905 Ty Cobb played his final game in the minor leagues with the hometown Augusta Tourists before joining the Detroit Tigers. Play was stopped so fans could present the young, but already dominant, Cobb with a floral bouquet and a gold wrist watch. To show their support, local fans actually took up donations to raise the money for the watch which was purchased from Parquette Jewelry Store in Augusta, Georgia. The shop’s owner, George Parquette was an avid sports fan and took this opportunity to meet and have his photo taken with the young local sports celebrity, Cobb. This postcard originally came from the estate of a relative of the Parquette family.

[pherbener]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I'm biased, but I consider this to be Cobb's rookie...it has an undivided postcard back and it pictures him w/ George Parquette, a jeweler from Augusta, Georgia, in 1905.

On August 25th, 1905 Ty Cobb played his final game in the minor leagues with the hometown Augusta Tourists before joining the Detroit Tigers. Play was stopped so fans could present the young, but already dominant, Cobb with a floral bouquet and a gold wrist watch. To show their support, local fans actually took up donations to raise the money for the watch which was purchased from Parquette Jewelry Store in Augusta, Georgia. The shop’s owner, George Parquette was an avid sports fan and took this opportunity to meet and have his photo taken with the young local sports celebrity, Cobb. This postcard originally came from the estate of a relative of the Parquette family.

Just when I thought I'd seen it all Derek. That is an amazing item!

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by pherbener

Just when I thought I'd seen it all Derek. That is an amazing item!

Thanks Paul!

[h2oya311]

as for the other guys on your list, here's what I have on my checklist (only two of which I own):

WaJo - 1907 Weiser Cabinet, 1907 Weiser PC, 1908-09 Carl Horner Cabinets, 1908-09 Rose PC, 1908 W601 Washington Premium, 1909 Barr-Farnham PC, or 1909 T204 Ramly

Young - 1890-92 Ryder Studio Cabinet, 1890 JA Rogers Studio Cabinet, 1893 Just So Tobacco, or c1893 Pifer & Becker Cabinet

Matty - 1901 Police Gazette Supplements (11"x17") (w/ and w/out tag line), 1900-01 Type I Press Photo - Bain, 1901 "El Petit Habana" Cuban Baseball Publication (9"x12-1/2"), 1902 W600 Sporting Life Cabinets "Street Clothes" - Type 2, 1903 E107, 1903 Burr McIntosh, or 1903 Benjamin Falk - Astoria - NY Giants PC

For Matty, there are also some team photos that were likely re-struck at a later date but they were taken during the period, so it's possible that one/more exist. I've only seen re-strikes for these at this point so they don't count in my book (yet)...they are 1898 Honesdale Baseball Team Photo and 1899 Bucknell Team Photo.

Lajoie - 1897 Leslie's Illustrated (Weekly Magazine) Cover Photo, 1898 Sporting Life Magazine Cover, 1899-00 M101-1 Sporting News, 1902 W600 Sporting Life Cabinets - Type 1, 1903 E107, or 1903-04 M.A. Seed Co. Cabinet

Joe Jax - 1907 Victor Mills Team PC (ML), 1907 Victor Mills Team Photo (ML), 1908 Greenville Spinners Team Cabinet, c1908-09 Greenville Postcard, 1909 E90-1, or 1910 T210 Old Mill Cigarettes Series 8 - New Orleans

Ruth - 1914 Baltimore News, 1914 Baltimore Orioles Team Photo, 1914 Providence Team Photo, 1914 Press Photo, 1914 RPPC (Ruth on Mound at Fenway vs. Detroit - 2nd game), 1915 Boston Team RPPC, 1915 PM1 Ornate Frame Pins, 1915-20 Baseball Stars Notebook, 1916 M101-5/4, 1915-19 Press Photo (AP), or 1915 M113 Baseball Magazine Premium

Gehrig - 1922 Hartford Senators Team Photo, 1923 M114 NY Yankees Team Photo Premium, 1925 Exhibits, 1925-31 W590, 1923 Press Photo (Columbia Uniform), 1923 Press Photo (Yankees Uniform), 1923 Police Gazette Newspaper (6/16/23) (inside), or 1924 Walter Johnson's Barnstorming Team Photo