Zeenut 1912 prices falling?

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Did anyone here get the 1912 Arellanes in the Brockelman auction? It wasn't me, although I tried.

I was just happy to see it. I am assuming that it is one of the very rare 1912 Zeenut cards. I collect several Zeenut players (and he is one of them), so I don't know as much about the especially rare cards in each set. I try to keep my eyes open for Arellanes Zeenut cards, but they are tough. I have his 1911 and 1917 Zeenuts, but not the 1912, 1913, and 1914.

Does anyone have the 1913 or 1914 Arellanes Zeenut cards? Or another 1912 to post?

Arellanes is definitely one of the tougher 1912's but not one of the absolute toughest. I still need him and I tried for that one but ended up focusing on the other two really tough ones and was able to pick up the Baker (vertical) and the McAvoy. That was the first McAvoy I had ever seen available. That was the one I wanted, i wasn't sure how high I would have to go there so I bowed out on the higher graded Arellanes just in case I needed to go a lot higher on those other two. I also upgraded a few others. Overall the prices as stated were a bit weaker than I thought, had the auction ended all at once I would have bid on more but i ended up in a bidding war that lasted a while on the two I really wanted and that prevented me from overdoing it on a few others I would have happily bid on at the next few increments. Another tough one that slipped through the cracks was the Fitzgerald (I was able to upgrade my copy a little), overall it was a fun and rare opportunity to pick up some great looking cards, the 1912's have long been one of my 2-3 favorite Zeenut series (I love those action photos so much more than the studio shots of 1911, although I admit that the 1911's are simply a beautiful set!)

[Vintagecatcher]

I picked up the Walter Boles 1912 zeenut in the auction. I have another which is my redeemed/punched copy.

I was tempted to pick up the Claude Berry 1912 zeenut which is the last catcher I need in the set, but I decided to wait until I could find one without creases.

I agree that prices seemed down a little as well. As mentioned previously in the thread, I think the prices reflect that collectors may be searching for a certain player or collecting the set by team, but not trying to complete the entire set.

I feel fortunate to have won the Boles, since I bid after I had been outbid, and I fell asleep. Truth be told I hadn't realized the auction was even ending that night.

Sometimes it's good to be lucky!

Patrick

[bocca001]

Looking over the Brockelman results, it is interesting to see what seem to be "common" cards selling for $300 to $550. I figured that the Arellanes would be expensive, but not quite that high. I see that the Baker and McAvoy also went for much more that what I would expect for a common/non-star.

Is the Baum card also tough? Or did it just sell well because he is a better-known PCL player.

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Arellanes isn't definitely one of the tougher 1912's but not one of the absolute toughest. I still need him and I tried for that one but ended up focusing one the other two really tough ones and was able to pick up the Baker (vertical) and the McAvoy. That was the first McAvoy I had ever seen available. That was the one I wanted, i wasn't sure how high I would have to go there so I bowed out on the higher graded Arellanes just in case I needed to go a lot higher on those other two. I also upgraded a few others. Overall the prices as stated were a bit weaker than I thought, had the auction ended all at once I would have bid on more but i ended up in a bidding war that lasted a while on the two I really wanted and that prevented me from overdoing it on a few others I would have happily bid on at the next few increments. Another tough one that slipped through the cracks was the Fitzgerald (I was able to upgrade my copy a little), overall it was a fun and rare opportunity to pick up some great looking cards, the 1912's have long been one of my 2-3 favorite Zeenut series (I love those action photos so much more than the studio shots of 1911, although I admit that the 1911's are simply a beautiful set!)

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Looking over the Brockelman results, it is interesting to see what seem to be "common" cards selling for $300 to $550. I figured that the Arellanes would be expensive, but not quite that high. I see that the Baker and McAvoy also went for much more that what I would expect for a common/non-star.

Is the Baum card also tough? Or did it just sell well because he is a better-known PCL player.

I mis-typed my earlier post and amended it, I meant to write that the Arellanes card IS one of he tougher cards in the set but not one of the absolute toughest.

The Baum card is not very difficult, probably just two people going after a more popular player I suspect. I may even have an extra in my duplicate pile (I'd have to check).

The other two you mentioned ARE very tough to find, I hadn't seen another McAvoy before and had only seen one other vertical Baker available. I'd probably rank both of them tougher than Arellanes but not by much. Those three were definitely the toughest of the group from Brockelman's.

Here are two VERY rare ones I have, the Lindsay is among the toughest 5-10 cards in the set (IMO). Both of these cards are as tough or tougher than the Bohen.