Honest, unbiased thoughts from a member, i.e. current boards situation

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Not that I haven't screwed up on occasion and posted stuff on the wrong board, but if the main board was limited to educational type inquiries and not someone wheeling and dealing cards for trades, I think it would alleviate a lot of people's disappointment as to the current state of the board. Having some carnival barker screaming "come
on boys .... you can do better than that" is not what this board should be about.

LOLOL I hate that thread too but it's just one thread. I would disagree with the OP's premise, I don't really see much difference between now and a year or two ago. For me the biggest change over time has been that many very knowledgeable people (both about cards and the hobby itself) aren't here any more or barely post, whether because they are banned, or lost interest, or whatever.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

LOLOL I hate that thread too but it's just one thread. I would disagree with the OP's premise, I don't really see much difference between now and a year or two ago. For me the biggest change over time has been that many very knowledgeable people (both about cards and the hobby itself) aren't here any more or barely post, whether because they are banned, or lost interest, or whatever.

Some, unfortunately, have passed away. While others, like myself, are just not as intelligent as they used to be.

Brian

[bnorth]

I have been a member for almost 4 years and it seem s about the same to me overall. I really like the BST section as I buy most of my cards off it and have for a while. We have not had anybody commit to buying stuff and not paying for a while now.

[kailes2872]

I have been enthralled with the history of card collecting posts. I really enjoyed the ones that showed the evolution through the 50's and 60's and how the cards increased in cost and the superstars started costing more due to the increased demand. The posts about Carter, Wagner, Burdick, etc. are really awesome and I feel like I really learn something and have a better understanding of how we got here today. I really like Ted Z's post where he talks about the history of a set, how they were laid out on a sheet and therefore, the relative scarcity and condition of certain cards. I feel like I am sitting in a college class earning a high level degree from a professor.

Do I love every rare back T206 thread and those like it? Not really, but then again, I am currently a post-war set collector and I try to learn as much as I can so that when I enter the pre-war foray, I will know as much as possible in order to avoid counterfeits, know proper value and the like. I am sure that there are a lot of electronic eye rolls when I post an obvious question on that board and it probably could have been answered by proper use of the search function.

Is everything awesome all the time? I am sure it could be better in spots. But in the few years that I have been here, I have made several wonderful acquaintances and dare I say, friends (although they might beg to differ...)

I think if you allow the forum to be what is intended to be 1.) a great place to learn from very advanced collectors and 2.) a safe place to buy and sell stuff where we can take out the middle man and get better deals on both sides, then you will be happy. If you expect it to be a place where we all get along all of the time, you will be disappointed - but I am not sure that you will find that place this side of heaven.

[rdixon1208]

Stick around a little longer and things will change again. And again. There's always a couple of new members who come to the board and post thousands of times in a year or two. Those guys tend to inevitably stir up all kinds of resentment and bickering. But soon enough they get bored and move on to something else. I've found that if I can avoid/ignore the really needy new guy then I can still have lots of fun with this site.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

LOLOL I hate that thread too but it's just one thread. I would disagree with the OP's premise, I don't really see much difference between now and a year or two ago. For me the biggest change over time has been that many very knowledgeable people (both about cards and the hobby itself) aren't here any more or barely post, whether because they are banned, or lost interest, or whatever.

Or bullied.

[rhettyeakley]

Just my opinion but some of it has to do with the fact that when a thread is started to actually get some research done about cards and/or baseball or inquiries are made about actual Pre-WW2 cards NOBODY freaking responds and the threads quickly get buried under the other stuff. The threads with drama and headache get hundreds of responses and thousands of views.

Not the biggest deal in the world but Just in the past 24-48 hours a thread was started about the 1912 Zeenut set and there were 4-5 responses or so and the thread has disappeared to the abyss of "Page 2" and will probably never be seen again. Another thread discussing our hobbies history from the 1940's got 2 responses and POOF!, gone.

A lot of the past members of this board (which I still enjoy very much) no longer post as they feel it isn't worth their time to post meaningful things just to have them be unappreciated and buried under threads about trading for a dream card (nearly 400 replies), pissing contests, posts about banned members, and other stuff that just serves to piss off other people.

I joke sometimes that feel like I personally am the "post killer" as I feel like as soon as I write a reply the thread I am responding to tends to get no more action and is gone in a matter of hours. Not sure what that means other than I may not be all that popular

[btcarfagno]

You guys should have been around when Archive ruled the roost. He was one badass mofo.

Tom C

[slidekellyslide]

I've been here for 13 or 14 years. It's pretty much always been this way. There have been times when the drama was at 'Threat Level Midnight', this ain't nothing. Ironically the people who complain the loudest about the drama are usually the cause of much of the drama.

[Topnotchsy]

I've been a member for a little over 3 years, and only really started posting in the last year or so.

For me as a younger collector (born in the 80's which is later than most of the people here I believe) who loves baseball history and has shifted from collecting modern cards to vintage and vintage game-used, this boards has been amazing for me. I'm constantly blown away by the knowledge that is here, the willingness for people to share information and help each other out, and the incredible collections of the members.

There's definitely better and worse times (weeks, months etc) but over all I can only speak for myself, but I still feel honored to be here, and amazed by so many people here.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

I joke sometimes that feel like I personally am the "post killer" as I feel like as soon as I write a reply the thread I am responding to tends to get no more action and is gone in a matter of hours. Not sure what that means other than I may not be all that popular

Rhett, I thought that was me. I always chock it up to me being an idiot, and I say/ask something so stupid no one has words to describe to me how idiotic my post is, so they just let the thread die due to their complete bafflement someone could be so dumb. You, I am shocked would feel this way. If people don't respond after your post, it is because they realize they are in the presence of a true genius, and don't want to say anything after your brilliant comment. Then I come along and post, and we all know that is when the post dies.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by edjs

Rhett, I thought that was me. I always chock it up to me being an idiot, and I say/ask something so stupid no one has words to describe to me how idiotic my post is, so they just let the thread die due to their complete bafflement someone could be so dumb. You, I am shocked would feel this way. If people don't respond after your post, it is because they realize they are in the presence of a true genius, and don't want to say anything after your brilliant comment. Then I come along and post, and we all know that is when the post dies.

I've been a thread killer my whole time I've been here, but I usually chalk it up to being late to the party. At least I hope that's it.

[edjs]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I've been a thread killer my whole time I've been here, but I usually chalk it up to being late to the party. At least I hope that's it.

Dan, it is because you have that moderator thing in your title. People are terrified of ticking you off.

[Beastmode]

Exactly what "services" is OP offering? Therapy?

[edhans]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Just my opinion but some of it has to do with the fact that when a thread is started to actually get some research done about cards and/or baseball or inquiries are made about actual Pre-WW2 cards NOBODY freaking responds and the threads quickly get buried under the other stuff. The threads with drama and headache get hundreds of responses and thousands of views.

Not the biggest deal in the world but Just in the past 24-48 hours a thread was started about the 1912 Zeenut set and there were 4-5 responses or so and the thread has disappeared to the abyss of "Page 2" and will probably never be seen again. Another thread discussing our hobbies history from the 1940's got 2 responses and POOF!, gone.

A lot of the past members of this board (which I still enjoy very much) no longer post as they feel it isn't worth their time to post meaningful things just to have them be unappreciated and buried under threads about trading for a dream card (nearly 400 replies), pissing contests, posts about banned members, and other stuff that just serves to piss off other people.

I joke sometimes that feel like I personally am the "post killer" as I feel like as soon as I write a reply the thread I am responding to tends to get no more action and is gone in a matter of hours. Not sure what that means other than I may not be all that popular

Well said, Rhett.

[timn1]

I guess it's human nature to be drawn to the train wreck threads, but I agree with Rhett here. OTOH, if no one has any knowledge to contribute to an "educational" thread, then they can't. Everybody can put in their two cents to the train wrecks.

Hey Rhett! Post something about an obscure set - I'll help keep it on the front page for a while, at least.

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Just my opinion but some of it has to do with the fact that when a thread is started to actually get some research done about cards and/or baseball or inquiries are made about actual Pre-WW2 cards NOBODY freaking responds and the threads quickly get buried under the other stuff. The threads with drama and headache get hundreds of responses and thousands of views.

Not the biggest deal in the world but Just in the past 24-48 hours a thread was started about the 1912 Zeenut set and there were 4-5 responses or so and the thread has disappeared to the abyss of "Page 2" and will probably never be seen again. Another thread discussing our hobbies history from the 1940's got 2 responses and POOF!, gone.

A lot of the past members of this board (which I still enjoy very much) no longer post as they feel it isn't worth their time to post meaningful things just to have them be unappreciated and buried under threads about trading for a dream card (nearly 400 replies), pissing contests, posts about banned members, and other stuff that just serves to piss off other people.

I joke sometimes that feel like I personally am the "post killer" as I feel like as soon as I write a reply the thread I am responding to tends to get no more action and is gone in a matter of hours. Not sure what that means other than I may not be all that popular

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

LOLOL I hate that thread too but it's just one thread. I would disagree with the OP's premise, I don't really see much difference between now and a year or two ago. For me the biggest change over time has been that many very knowledgeable people (both about cards and the hobby itself) aren't here any more or barely post, whether because they are banned, or lost interest, or whatever.

Or incarcerated.

[iowadoc77]

The line has blurred between constructive criticism and being a bit of an ass or a lot of an ass. There is a lot of all 3, but over all, this is a great place to be. I am very thankful for the BST section. if it were not here, my collection would be significantly smaller and have much less variety

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Or incarcerated.

Hey, Mark Theotikis gets out of prison tomorrow, just in time to get his inventory ready for the National.

http://nsccshow.com/wp-content/uploa...st-4-25-17.pdf

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Hey, Mark Theotikis gets out of prison tomorrow, just in time to get his inventory ready for the National.

http://nsccshow.com/wp-content/uploa...st-4-25-17.pdf

And Mastro is out of prison and in a halfway house; once he gets done washing the feet of lepers I bet he'll make his way down to the National too!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Or incarcerated.

Good point.