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Old 06-08-2017, 03:02 PM
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Hi Bryan,
Nice pick up I had been following the card for months. But missed it when price was lowered. Very tough REDSUN HOFer. With some experts saying they were folded into the pack. You will find 99% of them with a crease. There are a few I have that don't have creases but very few. Out of the 350 different I have maybe 5 that don't have the crease in them. I too am with Todd on buying the graded ones. They are so far off that you can actually pick them up at a decent price. As you mentioned there is a lot going on with silks on condition.

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Old 06-08-2017, 05:01 PM
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Hi Bryan,
Nice pick up I had been following the card for months. But missed it when price was lowered. Very tough REDSUN HOFer. With some experts saying they were folded into the pack. You will find 99% of them with a crease. There are a few I have that don't have creases but very few. Out of the 350 different I have maybe 5 that don't have the crease in them. I too am with Todd on buying the graded ones. They are so far off that you can actually pick them up at a decent price. As you mentioned there is a lot going on with silks on condition.

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Ron is right, there are a very small few ad-backed silks that appear to have not been folded for whatever reason. I have a couple myself. it might be a very small number were included in something other than regular cigarette packs where they did not have to be folded to fit them in.

And your silk is an awfully nice pick up. Any Red Sun backed silks are tough to find for any player, let alone a HOFer. Great silk.

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Old 06-08-2017, 08:24 PM
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Wow Bob and Ron - thank you for all of that info!

It seems that the horizontal threads were woven together at an angle given the miscut appearance of the Marquard silk - though others look like they are perpendicular to the sides so maybe the construction was variable?

Thanks for the compliments on the Marquard as well. I am trying to get a HOFer (where possible) from all cards - or in this case "cards" - that were/could have been issued in New Orleans. Given what you are telling me, and what I read before my purchase, I feel pretty lucky to have found such a nice one for my collection.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:59 AM
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Wow Bob and Ron - thank you for all of that info!

It seems that the horizontal threads were woven together at an angle given the miscut appearance of the Marquard silk - though others look like they are perpendicular to the sides so maybe the construction was variable?

Thanks for the compliments on the Marquard as well. I am trying to get a HOFer (where possible) from all cards - or in this case "cards" - that were/could have been issued in New Orleans. Given what you are telling me, and what I read before my purchase, I feel pretty lucky to have found such a nice one for my collection.
Yes, the horizontal threads always seem to be at a slight angle and not entirely perpendicular to the top and bottom edges. It does seem to vary though and there are some silks with virtually no horizontal angle, and others that are much greater. It probably has to do with how the satin material was originally woven and how it gets stretched and pulled when going through the printing process. If there wasn't any fraying on a particular silk, you probably don't even realize those horizontal threads are at an angle then.
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