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Old 06-08-2017, 02:05 PM
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I think cards would have been in some kind of slide. I don't think the cards were loose in the pack.
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:13 PM
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Given the amount of tobacco on them it seems like Polar Bears might have been naked in the packs.

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I think cards would have been in some kind of slide. I don't think the cards were loose in the pack.
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Old 06-10-2017, 06:30 PM
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Default Here are a few "full, unopened" packs..........

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Old 06-11-2017, 06:52 AM
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Hello Jerry, Jon, et al.

Here are two more 19th century packs but neither contain a card.

The SF Hess Gold Clip pre-dates the industry wide migration to slide & shell packs that occurred in 1886-1887. It has an 1883 tax stamp and the overprint is very light. A friend has a sister pack to mine and is able to read the overprint as June 1886. This was the most popular way to package cigarettes prior to slide and shell, 10 cigarettes rolled in a paper pack in an arrangement of three rows of 3, then 4, and another 3 giving a near round shape.


The second pack is one you are likely aware of, from Scott Hassel's 1995 warehouse find of a near full carton (18 of possible 20 packs). Each pack was mint and included all the original contents but no card. A coupon was inserted offering a book for 50 coupons (note the coupon states "Having decided to discontinue packing photographs with our cigarettes we will instead of these, extend to our patrons their choice of a good collection of well selected books.").




I also have a pack of SF Hess Creole with original cigarettes but the card and coupon are missing.
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Old 06-11-2017, 06:12 PM
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Default too hard to get to individual examples

as they are displayed with opened and empty packs. Mono and Mino - WOW. Never seen another of either - imagine there MIGHT be another one somewhere if one has another lifetime to spend! The Gold Clip a favorite - bought mine from someone whose grandfather had a tobacco store - he had at least 3 but price was pretty steep. Think the Duke's packs with book coupons were 1890's - I still have the carton. One pack that has always eluded me is the Lone Jack. Great piece Jon. I have a nice unsealed Lone Jack sack but I'm still in search of a slide and shell. The poker story just adds more interest for me. I have an Old Gold pack I bought from an Alan Haeger auction with contents and NS card. I personally value a sealed pack over one that isn't - but understand the people that don't feel an excessive premium is warranted. They're not wax packs and unless it's something that might contain a rare and valuable card - it's more about the sizzle than the steak. I also collect sealed Lucky Strike and Camel packs and tins from the teens to the 1940's. No cards inside - just closest to their original state and an item rarely found in such condition - theoretically a little more "special" than someone else might have but few people really care. Off the top of my head I have a couple Murad and Helmar unopened packs as well as a Kimball and American Beauty, Omar, Zeubelda, Fatima, Cameo, Home Run, Oasis, along with some full packs but opened - including a VERY early Ginter paper pack, a couple of Kimball packs, Sweet Caporal, Zira, Tokio (contains original insert indian silk - Red Cloud!), Clix, Polo and more.
I know your post was very specific and I really didn't meet the criteria. If I can offer something just email me - sorry I won't see you at the national this year.
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Old 06-11-2017, 09:59 PM
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Hello Henry,

I didn't notice or remember that you had a Gold Clip paper pack as well, I remember the A&G. I didn't realize there were three of them in total, glad they survived. I also didn't realize you have the Cameo carton. You have too much
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The second pack is one you are likely aware of, from Scott Hassel's 1995 warehouse find of a near full carton (18 of possible 20 packs). Each pack was mint and included all the original contents but no card. A coupon was inserted offering a book for 50 coupons (note the coupon states "Having decided to discontinue packing photographs with our cigarettes we will instead of these, extend to our patrons their choice of a good collection of well selected books.").



Cool, Joe....now you have to start a corresponding book collection



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I guess I need one!
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