1949 Bowman variations- calling Ted Z

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Dave and Al

Well, where do I start.......let's first go to the 1952 Topps "master" set. I am approaching 555 cards, which I consider comprises this complete set.
This one is easier, except for those elusive Graybacks (#131 - 190).

A 1949 Bowman "master" set is virtually impossible when you start considering the Slate background cards, Pink background cards, and other mis-
printed background cards.

For example, I now have the basic 324 cards (which includes the regular variations). And an additional 77 (or so) cards which include Slates, Pinks,
and other mis-printed background colors. I tell you all this, because I am no where near attaining a "master" Bowman set.

Somewhere in my archives I have figured out what number would make up a "master" set. I'd have to search for it, if you are interested.

Feel free to ask questions regarding this set, and I'll try to answer them.

Take care,


TED Z
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Thanks for the great insight Ted. I'm going to resist the temptation to make this an ongoing quest, but will keep my eye out for different backgrounds because it's fun. I have no idea what was happening in their printing process, but it's kinda crazy

[ALR-bishop]

The H&S 1952 super set was 579 and I know some 52 collectors on the board have expanded that number. A good many of such additions are recurring print defects or variances. In my view there will never be a finite number for any master set because there is no standard definition in the hobby of what constitutes a variation that should be included in a master set.

I think many collectors would use all or some combination of variations listed in SCD, Beckett and or the Registry to define a master set. The gray backs are a big hurdle to a master 52 set, as well as 2 Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons .

I broke the line on Topps but so far staying the course on Bowman.

Always appreciate it when Ted pops in over here

[tedzan]

Hi Al

Regarding 1952, my 555 number is based on what I consider Topps' original design intent.

Yes, if I was to include all the various printing errors I've had of these cards throughout the years, then my "master set" tally would be over 600 cards.

You said it very well....." In my view there will never be a finite number for any master set because there is no standard definition in the hobby of what
constitutes a variation that should be included in a master set ".

Take care,


TED Z
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Thanks for the great insight Ted. I'm going to resist the temptation to make this an ongoing quest, but will keep my eye out for different backgrounds because it's fun. I have no idea what was happening in their printing process, but it's kinda crazy

Dave

It sounds like you are really "hooked" on the 1949 Bowman's....I can foresee that you will continue to acquire them (especially the "oddball" cards).

I first collected these cards as a kid in the Spring of 1949. I returned to this great hobby in 1977, and completed many of these Bowman sets. Currently, I have 2.7 sets.
My best set includes the 1st series (72 cards) with the white backs; and, the 2nd set with the 1st series gray backs.


Furthermore, I have uncut sheets of the 1st, 3rd, and 4th series......




4th Series




And, here is my simulation of the 7th (final) sheet......





And, here is a small sample of my Low # and Hi # Slate cards





Wishing you happy hunting,


TED Z
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[Stonepony]

Great stuff as usual!