What is everyone's take on invalid bid retractions??

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by drcy

If it's your item, your auction and you don't know the person, obviously he isn't a shill bidder.

Yes, but it still looks suspicious to other bidders in the auction. That was my point and why I retract my bid if I'm high bidder and my proxy is exposed.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Yes, but it still looks suspicious to other bidders in the auction. That was my point and why I retract my bid if I'm high bidder and my proxy is exposed.

I hope that is not the case.....the retractor has been blocked...but I see your point....It ruins the whole integrity of the auction.

Maybe the other guy won't mind, since his max is so close to where it sits currently anyway. He is stealing the card right now, IMHO....someone could technically win it, break it out of the low grade case, and sell it for 3 times where it sits now.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I hope that is not the case.....the retractor has been blocked...but I see your point....It ruins the whole integrity of the auction.

Maybe the other guy won't mind, since his max is so close to where it sits currently anyway. He is stealing the card right now, IMHO....someone could technically win it, break it out of the low grade case, and sell it for 3 times where it sits now.

You do say that your cards can always be won for cheap and there is currently a great deal.

After the auction ends and all the bidding is done, if you pointed out how cheap your cards were bought for that would prove your point about how your auctions are giving such great deals. None is ever 'stealing the card' until the auction is over. Early bidding means nothing. If you just want to bring attention to your auction that is understandable no one is stealing any card mid auction

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

You do say that your cards can always be won for cheap and there is currently a great deal.

After the auction ends and all the bidding is done, if you pointed out how cheap your cards were bought for that would prove your point about how your auctions are giving such great deals. None is ever 'stealing the card' until the auction is over. Early bidding means nothing. If you just want to bring attention to your auction that is understandable no one is stealing any card mid auction

We can revisit this thread after the auction is over. Still doesn't change the fact that there is a VERY real possibility that the winning bidder will crack this card out and sell it raw.

[bobbyw8469]

As much as you like to argue and bicker Jake, there is no denying that the larger sellers get more money than the smaller sellers for the exact same card (for legitimate reasons, or nefarious reasons). And that's fine by me.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

We can revisit this thread after the auction is over. Still doesn't change the fact that there is a VERY real possibility that the winning bidder will crack this card out and sell it raw.

How much did this card go for...a big steal?

[bobbyw8469]

Yes..it sold for $666....a similar looking PSA 1 (but with a tear in it) sold for $920 or so....so I thought mine should have sold for $900 as well.....the winning bidder was a VERY big dealer/flipper on Ebay. It would not surprise me at all if the card gets broken out and sold as raw, since it looks like a 4/5 and the "issue" is so hard to spot. Hindsight being 20/20, I wish I had broken it out and sold it raw. I took a chance though, and lost.