The Chicago Cracker Jack Find

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Why else would someone go to Beckett for cards to be sold at auction when it would be almost impossible not to know that SGC and PSA cards will sell higher?

Correct me if I'm wrong here ... as I very well could be. But its obvious that most of these cards are low-mid grade and unaltered. They don't have razor sharp corners so trimming isn't an issue, and many display caramel marks or staining that make it seem like chemical soaking isn't an issue. What else is there to worry about? The grading seems to be pretty consistent and honest with most of the grades falling between 1 and 4. Tough to screw that up. If these were high grades in the 6 to 9 area I'd probably agree that registry money would garner more attention. But whoever buys the Cobb and Matty and JJ can spend $500 and get them crossed to their TPG of choice to put in the registry.

I don't see a lot of (if any) money being left on the table here. Goodwin is a major auction house. I think the CJs will do just fine as the early spirited bidding would suggest.

[Stonepony]

I was waiting for Kevin to chime in...but..oh yeah...

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Correct me if I'm wrong here ... as I very well could be. But its obvious that most of these cards are low-mid grade and unaltered. They don't have razor sharp corners so trimming isn't an issue, and many display caramel marks or staining that make it seem like chemical soaking isn't an issue. What else is there to worry about? The grading seems to be pretty consistent and honest with most of the grades falling between 1 and 4. Tough to screw that up. If these were high grades in the 6 to 9 area I'd probably agree that registry money would garner more attention. But whoever buys the Cobb and Matty and JJ can spend $500 and get them crossed to their TPG of choice to put in the registry.

I don't see a lot of (if any) money being left on the table here. Goodwin is a major auction house. I think the CJs will do just fine as the early spirited bidding would suggest.

I would completely agree with this. That is a nice Matty card no matter what slab its in, even if its raw...imagine that.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Whats good about the Find is at least with the BVG holder that tells you where it came from, theres no issue that the card was submitted 5 times before to SGC or PSA and doctored various times or other types of things done to the card...you know where the the card originated....

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

The Matty is a great looking card but the problem is that it's got what looks like a tiny bit of paper missing from the back which I think if PSA catches would make it an automatic 2 or even 1.5. Thereby depending on the final sales price you might be out big bucks when crossing it over. For all these cards buyers will be at a major disadvantage on resale if left in the BVG holders.

BTW if this card is a PSA 3.5 what would they grade the Matty?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

BTW if this card is a PSA 3.5 what would they grade the Matty?

That JJ is a beautiful card, but every grading company is going to give that around a 3-3.5 because of the thumb crease between Cracker and Jack along the top border.

I'm sure I could find some butt-ugly PSA 3 cards and then say "if they grade this a 3, what will they grade the Matty?"

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

That JJ is a beautiful card, but every grading company is going to give that around a 3-3.5 because of the thumb crease between Cracker and Jack along the top border.

I'm sure I could find some butt-ugly PSA 3 cards and then say "if they grade this a 3, what will they grade the Matty?"

No creases on that card whatsoever. The scan picks up some missing ink in the red background that's not easily noticeable to naked eye. Reason I brought it up is to show the disparity in grading co's and having to factor that in when bidding on a bvg holder. Will be interesting to see where the matty ends up and in which holder. I'd be thrilled to own it no doubt

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Reason I brought it up is to show the disparity in grading co's and having to factor that in when bidding on a bvg holder.

Yes, I see the disparity

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Correct me if I'm wrong here ... as I very well could be. But its obvious that most of these cards are low-mid grade and unaltered. They don't have razor sharp corners so trimming isn't an issue, and many display caramel marks or staining that make it seem like chemical soaking isn't an issue. What else is there to worry about? The grading seems to be pretty consistent and honest with most of the grades falling between 1 and 4. Tough to screw that up. If these were high grades in the 6 to 9 area I'd probably agree that registry money would garner more attention. But whoever buys the Cobb and Matty and JJ can spend $500 and get them crossed to their TPG of choice to put in the registry.

I don't see a lot of (if any) money being left on the table here. Goodwin is a major auction house. I think the CJs will do just fine as the early spirited bidding would suggest.

The Matty is already at $34K+ all in so your assessment is obviously dead on accurate.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

The Matty is already at $34K+ all in so your assessment is obviously dead on accurate.

Agree on that. And it's a fantastic card.

I would add that I think the Cobb is also at a pretty high price already -- also a fantastic example of the card.

To my initial comments, I would also say that the fact this is a Goodwin auction helps these cards. The auction landscape has really turned to a few disparate camps: the high end REA/Heritage; the high end postwar Memory Lane; the oddball and lower graded in H & S; and Goodwin which to me usually features the most interesting cards per capita than just about any auction.