Never mind . . . .

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Does anyone here care if their cards are altered? Seriously. Or does it only matter that someone you pay ships you the holder and the flip promptly?

It's not a rhetorical question. To be barred from submitting by both PSA and SGC you have to be doing some major stuff to cards I would think. But the reaction is, got a good deal from him. WTF.

This thread is the first I have heard of Tony being barred from submitting to PSA or SGC. I bought my BGS 10 89 ud Griffey, and another card before that from him. I don't remember which one. Probably a centered Mantle as Greg mentioned.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

This thread is the first I have heard of Tony being barred from submitting to PSA or SGC. I bought my BGS 10 89 ud Griffey, and another card before that from him. I don't remember which one. Probably a centered Mantle as Greg mentioned.

If I heard someone had been barred from submitting to PSA and SGC, my first reaction would not be to praise them (nice cards at a fair price). But that's just me, I guess.

[Jobu]

I too am curious how someone can be banned from submitting cards to PSA and SGC. Can someone provide some details on this?

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I heard someone had been barred from submitting to PSA and SGC, my first reaction would not be to praise them (nice cards at a fair price). But that's just me, I guess.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jobu

I too am curious how someone can be banned from submitting cards to PSA and SGC. Can someone provide some details on this?

I think it's as simple as PSA and SGC saying if we see your name again on a submission, we aren't going to process it. He isn't the first one by any stretch. Of course, fraudsters will find other fraudsters to submit their doctored cards, so it's only a partial measure.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I heard someone had been barred from submitting to PSA and SGC, my first reaction would not be to praise them (nice cards at a fair price). But that's just me, I guess.

Jeff probably has a lot more information than I do to make a statement like that, but I'm not going to condemn a seller based on a one sentence post in a forum. Tony came highly recommended from a hobby friend I have complete trust in. My experience dealing with him was a good one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Jeff probably has a lot more information than I do to make a statement like that, but I'm not going to condemn a seller based on a one sentence post in a forum. Tony came highly recommended from a hobby friend I have complete trust in. My experience dealing with him was a good one.

Lots of fraudsters come highly recommended by people who don't have a clue about fraud. Much or most of Madoff's business came through word of mouth from his clients, for example. And they all have good customer service, that's part of the seduction/deception. And they are all nice guys too. And yes, Jeff does know much much more than you about this subject or he wouldn't have said it.