T206 Green Cobby.....yet again

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

I was going to email my fraud dept contact at ebay about this again but am not sure if ole Battlefield is actually doing anything wrong, besides being a person with extremely poor (criminal to me) ethics? Should it be reported, and if so, why?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TY-COBB-PORT...4AAOSwjL5ZHRIZ


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Of course it's fraudulent. She knows damn well it's trimmed but is avoiding saying so with that carefully worded BS. And equally of course ebay isn't going to do a damn thing about her. Or about any other major seller. But in the meantime they will harass occasional sellers for including contact information or hinting at off ebay transactions in messages -- while major sellers have their contact information right there in their listings.

[PhillipAbbott79]

If she came outright and said it is trimmed, what do you think it is worth(what it will sell for)?

Curious to hear peoples opinions on that.

[pokerplyr80]

I actually don't mind this listing at all. Looks NM, if graded will come back only authentic, measures short. Aside from not specifically saying it's trimmed, she has told the truth. You will get a nice looking green cobb that will end up in a PSA A altered holder. Bid accordingly.

Unless the scan has been photo shopped and the card doesn't actually look NM.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I actually don't mind this listing at all. Looks NM, if graded will come back only authentic, measures short. Aside from not specifically saying it's trimmed, she has told the truth. You will get a nice looking green cobb that will end up in a PSA A altered holder. Bid accordingly.

Unless the scan has been photo shopped and the card doesn't actually look NM.

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play. Carefully crafted bullshit.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play. Carefully crafted bullshit.

Most, maybe 99% of her listings are total BS. This one at least she is clearly saying the card won't grade and measures short. Apparently after it was sold and returned 4 times. But if I were bidding on this card I would know what I was getting from the description. This is unusual from the battlefield listings I have seen in the past that are clearly designed to deceive bidders.

[bobbyw8469]

The negatives for the PSA graded cards disturbs me. Yes, I realize they seller is doing some nefarious stuff. HOWEVER, why are buyers leaving negatives on PSA cards!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

The negatives for the PSA graded cards disturbs me. Yes, I realize they seller is doing some nefarious stuff. HOWEVER, why are buyers leaving negatives on PSA cards!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?

I would say even with a graded card someone can photoshop the colors to make it much more eye appealing. Graded or not you should not alter the photos of the product you are selling.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Most, maybe 99% of her listings are total BS. This one at least she is clearly saying the card won't grade and measures short. Apparently after it was sold and returned 4 times. But if I were bidding on this card I would know what I was getting from the description. This is unusual from the battlefield listings I have seen in the past that are clearly designed to deceive bidders.

If it wasn't designed to deceive someone, she would just tell the truth, that it was trimmed. That she doesn't tells me it is designed to deceive, although perhaps less so than other listings.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If it wasn't designed to deceive someone, she would just tell the truth, that it was trimmed. That she doesn't tells me it is designed to deceive, although perhaps less so than other listings.

I think we mostly agree on this issue in general and are splitting hairs on the Cobb. I think battlefield is horrible for our hobby and should be banned from ebay. I hope no one took my comments as a defense of her business practices.

In general on any raw card listing if a seller says a card won't get a numerical grade, and measures short, I know one of two things. They know the card is trimmed, or its been submitted and came back trimmed or min size zero and can't receive a grade. This is close enough for me, and if I were still interested I would bid what I feel a nice psa A is worth.

[Leon]

+1 - Very deceptive but maybe not enough to get the boot from ebay. Can anyone imagine what their email inbox and ebay inbox must look like with all of their problems? I might give a few bucks just to look at those....

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If it wasn't designed to deceive someone, she would just tell the truth, that it was trimmed. That she doesn't tells me it is designed to deceive, although perhaps less so than other listings.

[CW]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

If she came outright and said it is trimmed, what do you think it is worth(what it will sell for)?

Curious to hear peoples opinions on that.

I think it would be tough to gauge without having the card in hand. Keep in mind it's very likely a photoshopped image in addition to the trimming.


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[pherbener]

I love some of the feedback comments... "Card clearly trimmed. Horrific seller. Zero ethics. Wasn't raised well"

I'd place bets this was from someone on this board!! Wasn't raised well