What did you win in Heritage?

[Arazi4442]

I had a quick question about Heritage. I was looking at some of the 19th century cards and noticed the 1887 Old Judge John L. Sullivan. It was graded PSA 1 (much nicer looking but with some paper loss on the back). HA set the estimate at $2K+. That seemed high and I found that a similar card graded SGC 3/40 sold on PWCC last December for $620. Where does Heritage get their estimate? Some of the ones on my watch list sold for less than 60% of the estimate (68 Bench PSA 10). Are they just trying to increase the sale price or do these estimates come from somewhere?

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Arazi4442

I had a quick question about Heritage. I was looking at some of the 19th century cards and noticed the 1887 Old Judge John L. Sullivan. It was graded PSA 1 (much nicer looking but with some paper loss on the back). HA set the estimate at $2K+. That seemed high and I found that a similar card graded SGC 3/40 sold on PWCC last December for $620. Where does Heritage get their estimate? Some of the ones on my watch list sold for less than 60% of the estimate (68 Bench PSA 10). Are they just trying to increase the sale price or do these estimates come from somewhere?

Their estimates are all over the board - I've seen estimates that are 5x what the selling price should be, and the items don't get any bids at all. And then there are items that go 5x what the estimates say, since they low-balled it.

As tempting as it can be (and I certainly look at what their estimates state), try not to pay too much attention to them, and as you did, look for similar recent sales to give you a better ballpark of what to expect to pay.

[PiratesWS1979]

I was shut out on T206s but not for lack for trying. I managed runner-up on the Speaker Cycle, Clarke Sovereign, Bender SC and WaJo old mill.

"Settled" for the T213 WaJo and E102 Crawford. Nice additions to my player collections

[paul]

What did you think of $40,000 for the W600 Plank?

[Bicem]

Understand that w600 Plank uniform is tough, but that's Ruth/Cobb money to me... not Eddie Plank.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Understand that w600 Plank uniform is tough, but that's Ruth/Cobb money to me... not Eddie Plank.

I understand, Jeff. But a Rube Waddell in poor, I believe, sold for $12,000 in a Steve Verkman auction several years ago, and I for one would rate Plank well ahead of him in terms of upper to lower HOF'er echelons. What would a W600 Cobb go for now? The last one I am aware of that sold was one in a Goodwin auction, perhaps 7-8 years ago--maybe more, and I believe it went for $35 K. Anyone know of more recent sales (although there aren't going to be many--tough card!)?

Highest regards,

Larry

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

I understand, Jeff. But a Rube Waddell in poor, I believe, sold for $12,000 in a Steve Verkman auction several years ago, and I for one would rate Plank well ahead of him in terms of upper to lower HOF'er echelons. What would a W600 Cobb go for now? The last one I am aware of that sold was one in a Goodwin auction, perhaps 7-8 years ago--maybe more, and I believe it went for $35 K. Anyone know of more recent sales (although there aren't going to be many--tough card!)?

Highest regards,

Larry

12k for a poor w600 Waddell? Do you have a link? That sounds crazy high unless it was the green mount.

I personally don't put Plank much higher than Rube, although I may be biased.

Yeah, a w600 Cobb would go crazy, and rightfully so. He should be multiple times what a Plank goes for. Plank uniform may be technically tougher but Cobb is next level Hof tier, also extremely tough, and many consider the w600 to be his rookie.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by paul

What did you think of $40,000 for the W600 Plank?

along those lines, $60,000 for the W600 Lajoie? Green mount? Maybe a 24 karat gold mount!!!