Steiner Sports Auctions

Dave Grob · #1 05-07-2017, 07:00 PM

I won the Jerry Zimmerman bat and was beyond thrilled that they decided to �phone in� the description on the Lot (#59).

Lot Description: Jerry Zimmerman was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher.

Wikipedia Entry for Jerry Zimmerman: Gerald Robert Zimmerman (September 21, 1934 � September 9, 1998) was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher. Born in Omaha, Nebraska, he attended Milwaukie High School in Oregon.

Zimmerman is considered the primary catcher for the 1961 Reds National League Champion team (76 game to 52 for Johnny Edwards) and also played on the 1965 Twins World Series team. Anyone who has ever tried to put together a team set of game used bats from a season such as these knows that players like Zimmerman are much much tougher than the stars. I have been looking for a Zimmerman bat for almost a decade. I tried to buy one a few years ago for $850 and couldn't because it was part of a 1965 Twins set.

Getting this one today ($120 with hammer) now gives me a game used bat of every position player on the 1961 Reds team who appeared in more than 70 games that year.

Dave Grob

RedsFan1941 · #2 05-07-2017, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I won the Jerry Zimmerman bat and was beyond thrilled that they decided to �phone in� the description on the Lot (#59).

Lot Description: Jerry Zimmerman was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher.

Wikipedia Entry for Jerry Zimmerman: Gerald Robert Zimmerman (September 21, 1934 � September 9, 1998) was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher. Born in Omaha, Nebraska, he attended Milwaukie High School in Oregon.

Zimmerman is considered the primary catcher for the 1961 Reds National League Champion team (76 game to 52 for Johnny Edwards) and also played on the 1965 Twins World Series team. Anyone who has ever tried to put together a team set of game used bats from a season such as these knows that players like Zimmerman are much much tougher than the stars. I have been looking for a Zimmerman bat for almost a decade. I tried to buy one a few years ago for $850 and couldn't because it was part of a 1965 Twins set.

Getting this one today ($120 with hammer) now gives me a game used bat of every position player on the 1961 Reds team who appeared in more than 70 games that year.

Dave Grob

that's awesome. so nice to read a story like this about real collecting instead of what the "market" might be for jerry zimmerman bats and-or why this one sold for "below Market."

btcarfagno · #3 05-07-2017, 07:27 PM

I got the Wajo original centennial stamp artwork. But am more interested in what is on the back in the item in the second picture.

Tom C

Leon · #4 05-07-2017, 08:26 PM

Congrats on conquering your quest. (assuming that was your quest

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I won the Jerry Zimmerman bat and was beyond thrilled that they decided to �phone in� the description on the Lot (#59).

Lot Description: Jerry Zimmerman was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher.

Wikipedia Entry for Jerry Zimmerman: Gerald Robert Zimmerman (September 21, 1934 � September 9, 1998) was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher. Born in Omaha, Nebraska, he attended Milwaukie High School in Oregon.

Zimmerman is considered the primary catcher for the 1961 Reds National League Champion team (76 game to 52 for Johnny Edwards) and also played on the 1965 Twins World Series team. Anyone who has ever tried to put together a team set of game used bats from a season such as these knows that players like Zimmerman are much much tougher than the stars. I have been looking for a Zimmerman bat for almost a decade. I tried to buy one a few years ago for $850 and couldn't because it was part of a 1965 Twins set.

Getting this one today ($120 with hammer) now gives me a game used bat of every position player on the 1961 Reds team who appeared in more than 70 games that year.

Dave Grob

ooo-ribay · #5 05-07-2017, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I won the Jerry Zimmerman bat and was beyond thrilled that they decided to �phone in� the description on the Lot (#59).

Lot Description: Jerry Zimmerman was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher.

Wikipedia Entry for Jerry Zimmerman: Gerald Robert Zimmerman (September 21, 1934 � September 9, 1998) was an American professional baseball player and coach. He played all or part of eight seasons in Major League Baseball for the Cincinnati Reds and the Minnesota Twins from 1961 to 1968, primarily as a catcher. Born in Omaha, Nebraska, he attended Milwaukie High School in Oregon.

Zimmerman is considered the primary catcher for the 1961 Reds National League Champion team (76 game to 52 for Johnny Edwards) and also played on the 1965 Twins World Series team. Anyone who has ever tried to put together a team set of game used bats from a season such as these knows that players like Zimmerman are much much tougher than the stars. I have been looking for a Zimmerman bat for almost a decade. I tried to buy one a few years ago for $850 and couldn't because it was part of a 1965 Twins set.

Getting this one today ($120 with hammer) now gives me a game used bat of every position player on the 1961 Reds team who appeared in more than 70 games that year.

Dave Grob

I think it's great that you were able to complete what must have been kind of a tough collection of bats....and at a cheap price, to boot. Congrats!

Duluth Eskimo · #6 05-07-2017, 09:13 PM

Dave,
I am wondering why you are so anti Steiner considering you got your item for what is considered way below market value for a great item. I have no love for Steiner, but I have won an item from them in the past. Mine too was significantly discounted. Anyways, I assume you are upset that you wanted the item so bad that you had to pretty much monitor the auction to ensure you got it, but in the end you did really well. I would assume with a Steiner auction there are many middle of the road items that go for under market value because most people assume Steiner means big time prices.

ksfarmboy · #7 05-07-2017, 10:28 PM

Congrats Dave on adding a tough bat to your collection.

Dave Grob · #8 05-08-2017, 07:10 AM

Thanks for all the congratulatory comments on the Zimmerman bat. Much of the Reds stuff I picked is very targeted in helping to close gaps that the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum have.

As far as my issues with Steiner, for me it is the classic example of the ends not justifying the means. When I complained about their "horrid management of extending bidding", I was told that "Almost, if not all online auctions have a 15 minute rule. Once there are no bids for 15 minutes the auction will close, with lots all closing at the same time."

1. The justification is that everyone does it has never set well with me, in any facet of life.

2. It suggests that all applications of the "15 minute rule" are the same and that Steiner is powerless to control the application of this rule.

3. It suggests I had not read the auction rules and needed to be reminded of them.

In their (Steiner's defense), I did read the rules they posted, and I registered and bid in their auction. They did exactly what they said they would do and I got in bed with this. But just because I may have met my future wife on the Titanic, doesn't mean I need to or want to book another cruise with the White Star Line.

Dave Grob

Duluth Eskimo · #9 05-08-2017, 08:08 AM

No big deal, I just figured you should be happy you got it so cheap, despite the auction drama. I have to admit that it would be quite aggravating to have to "monitor" an auction to ensure you get the item as you have been looking for so long.

BTW, I have read a number of detailed game worn articles you have written and I appreciate the detailed analysis you go in to when evaluating. It's nice to be able to learn something new nowadays. I have been meaning to pick up a copy of the new book you just put out. Take care, Jason

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