Newbie Needing Some Help

[jb217676]

Who is selling these? You should notify the authorities and have them arrested on the spot!

[Mattg]

It's an antique/junk store I frequent. I've been hassling the guy for a year or more to see all his cards. He says he has millions in storage. Says he has stuff from 1900s to today. These were a couple he pulled out for me. But now I have a feeling for what might be buried in storage. Thanks

[Leon]

He probably got them him from his grandfather. It seems grandfathers always collected fakes and reprints. He usually kept them in the attic too.

Originally Posted by Mattg

It's an antique/junk store I frequent. I've been hassling the guy for a year or more to see all his cards. He says he has millions in storage. Says he has stuff from 1900s to today. These were a couple he pulled out for me. But now I have a feeling for what might be buried in storage. Thanks

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Mattg

It's an antique/junk store I frequent. I've been hassling the guy for a year or more to see all his cards. He says he has millions in storage. Says he has stuff from 1900s to today. These were a couple he pulled out for me. But now I have a feeling for what might be buried in storage. Thanks

Odd that he has the balls to charge serious money for these, instead of $5 or $10. Perhaps he doesn't have a clue. But those price stickers aren't from his attic.

[philliesfan]

Should have a decimal point after the 2.

[Jewish-collector]

I would pay $3 - $5 for those. That wouldn't be overpaying would it ?

[ValKehl]

Hate to say it, but my gut feeling is these are cutouts from a magazine or other publication.

[Nunzio11]

I'm definitely no expert but I love how the card type on the slab is described as "sepia" as if the photographer/manufacturer had the choice in 1909. "Hey Honus, we'll take the first picture in sepia and the second we'll make into a refractor". 😀

[Mattg]

@Nunzio11: HA! So very true. Looking forward to sharing this information with my junk dealer. Probably won't score me any points to see what else he has, he doesn't like to be told that his junk is JUNK.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Mattg

@Nunzio11: HA! So very true. Looking forward to sharing this information with my junk dealer. Probably won't score me any points to see what else he has, he doesn't like to be told that his junk is JUNK.

Just for a different opinion I would NEVER handle it this way. Why antagonize the guy? Just to prove you are smarter? the possibility exists, slim though it may be, that he has real stuff stashed away along with the bogus. He may not even know the difference. I would probably say something like those are cool, but I'm looking for more mainstream stuff like Tobacco, Caramel or Goudey.

Then If he produces another round of fakes maybe go to the cops, at least warn any friends in the area, but why say anything to the seller? At that point you're just alerting him that someone is on to him.

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Just for a different opinion I would NEVER handle it this way. Why antagonize the guy? Just to prove you are smarter? the possibility exists, slim though it may be, that he has real stuff stashed away along with the bogus. He may not even know the difference. I would probably say something like those are cool, but I'm looking for more mainstream stuff like Tobacco, Caramel or Goudey.

Then If he produces another round of fakes maybe go to the cops, at least warn any friends in the area, but why say anything to the seller? At that point you're just alerting him that someone is on to him.

+ 1, Exactly what I was thinking. Not what I was looking for but happy to see the rest of items, etc.

[Mattg]

Gentlemen, I agree, if he was rational, but he isn't. Everything is covered in gold in his shop. I'm taking the approach of wearing him down and by appearing as the expert. If I come across something fantastic and amazing that doesn't interest me, I want to be able to tell him that it is something special ... be the trusted advisor/expert. Get him to ASK me to see his stuff. I'm not trying to antagonize him, but rather enlighten him with the truth. But as I said, he's a delicate flower, he doesn't appreciate cards or collectors - thinks they are all out to steal a piece of his gold. I'm not brazen enough to walk in and tell him he has newspaper clippings, but I do want him to recognize my expertise and his unfounded belief that everything old and baseball is worth the US Mint.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Mattg

Gentlemen, I agree, if he was rational, but he isn't. Everything is covered in gold in his shop. I'm taking the approach of wearing him down and by appearing as the expert. If I come across something fantastic and amazing that doesn't interest me, I want to be able to tell him that it is something special ... be the trusted advisor/expert. Get him to ASK me to see his stuff. I'm not trying to antagonize him, but rather enlighten him with the truth. But as I said, he's a delicate flower, he doesn't appreciate cards or collectors - thinks they are all out to steal a piece of his gold. I'm not brazen enough to walk in and tell him he has newspaper clippings, but I do want him to recognize my expertise and his unfounded belief that everything old and baseball is worth the US Mint.

I think you are leaving out the other option, that he is purposefully throwing these cards out looking for a rube and hoping to set the hook on a bite at these prices. He has not had these cards long at all as they are ESA crap and there is a holo flipped PSA card underneath. I would not try to play the expert card when in all likelihood he bought those for less than 5 bucks and put them out to test you. By even acting interested enough to take a photo and ask questions about a three dollar bill, you have already shown your cards. Walking up and playing the expert is now not going to help.

Just look at what he has and don't buy without researching because in selling these cards he has shown his hand also...he's waiting for a sucker.

Don't take this the wrong way, I am just trying to help.