My pet peeve

[swarmee]

I try to respond ASAP as well, but here are some possible reasons that people ghost you once you've made a counteroffer:
1) They're still considering accepting your offer, but decided to put other offers out to sellers of the same card to see if they can beat your price.
2) They're still considering accepting your offer, but have to move money into PayPal or sell something to be able to afford the new price.
3) By allowing the offer to expire, they're showing you (in a passive-aggressive manner) that they don't need the card. So if they come along three days after your counteroffer, they may offer their original price again because you haven't sold the card in the meantime. < "Game theory" theory
4) They are on a cruise and cannot access the internet to see that you counteroffered.
5) They would rather let the counter expire than reject it, and consider angering you. Some people are that timid, and many sellers on eBay will get agitated over flat rejections.
6) They don't care that much. There's no requirement for you to sell it to them, because you have the ability to sell it to anyone else while their offer is outstanding. So there's no harm to you in letting it expire.
7) Ghosting is now a part of culture. Shy people have decided it is better to disappear than to be involved in things they're tired of.

[PowderedH2O]

I've noticed it far more the other way. At least 15-20% of the time that I make an offer as a buyer, I get no response. This especially annoys me, because essentially for 48 hours I am married to that offer and my funds are tied up because there is a chance that the offer will be accepted. When it is a substantial item, that can cause you to miss out on other deals that may come along, just on the off chance that the seller will respond.

Oh, and as a buyer, if a seller has a "Make Offer" and I offer 85% of the asking price and they come back with a $1 reduction from their BIN, I won't waste my time responding to their response either. I figure they don't really want offers. Game over.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by PowderedH2O

I've noticed it far more the other way. At least 15-20% of the time that I make an offer as a buyer, I get no response. This especially annoys me, because essentially for 48 hours I am married to that offer and my funds are tied up because there is a chance that the offer will be accepted. When it is a substantial item, that can cause you to miss out on other deals that may come along, just on the off chance that the seller will respond.

Oh, and as a buyer, if a seller has a "Make Offer" and I offer 85% of the asking price and they come back with a $1 reduction from their BIN, I won't waste my time responding to their response either. I figure they don't really want offers. Game over.

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excellent points!!!!!!!!!!

[irv]

Originally Posted by PowderedH2O

I've noticed it far more the other way. At least 15-20% of the time that I make an offer as a buyer, I get no response. This especially annoys me, because essentially for 48 hours I am married to that offer and my funds are tied up because there is a chance that the offer will be accepted. When it is a substantial item, that can cause you to miss out on other deals that may come along, just on the off chance that the seller will respond.

Oh, and as a buyer, if a seller has a "Make Offer" and I offer 85% of the asking price and they come back with a $1 reduction from their BIN, I won't waste my time responding to their response either. I figure they don't really want offers. Game over.

I can relate to this fully! Rarely, now, do I even look at BINS. After numerous, reasonable bids, were ignored, on their over the top high priced cards, it has become nothing but a waste of time and effort.

I have no issue with people asking what they want, but if you are going to ignore me, even if your prices are totally unrealistic, then I'm moving on.

[PowderedH2O]

I've noticed it far more the other way. At least 15-20% of the time that I make an offer as a buyer, I get no response. This especially annoys me, because essentially for 48 hours I am married to that offer and my funds are tied up because there is a chance that the offer will be accepted. When it is a substantial item, that can cause you to miss out on other deals that may come along, just on the off chance that the seller will respond.

Oh, and as a buyer, if a seller has a "Make Offer" and I offer 85% of the asking price and they come back with a $1 reduction from their BIN, I won't waste my time responding to their response either. I figure they don't really want offers. Game over.

[cardsnstuff]

I could certainly understand how that would be annoying as a buyer; can't you cancel your offer? in my case that is usually not the case.

I can only speak for myself; sometimes, I may come down very little but usually there is a reason. Either, I am already below VCP or I am the lowest seller by a substantial amount for same card in same grade even if mine may have better eye appeal than similar listed.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by PowderedH2O

I've noticed it far more the other way. At least 15-20% of the time that I make an offer as a buyer, I get no response. This especially annoys me, because essentially for 48 hours I am married to that offer and my funds are tied up because there is a chance that the offer will be accepted. When it is a substantial item, that can cause you to miss out on other deals that may come along, just on the off chance that the seller will respond.

Oh, and as a buyer, if a seller has a "Make Offer" and I offer 85% of the asking price and they come back with a $1 reduction from their BIN, I won't waste my time responding to their response either. I figure they don't really want offers. Game over.

I have the same issues myself, if someone will not drop even 5% I tend to be annoyed enough to move on. I would have rather had a no best offer option because waiting for a weak counter wasted my time.