Value of W514 Strip Cards

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by TUM301

Besides the Ruth, there`s a decent # of 1919 Black Sox in this set that many collectors are always on the hunt for. Good Luck

+1. W 514 strips seem to be the set to collect for the Black Sox. Have been outbid on these consistently no matter the condition.

Z

[pro9]

Wesley, hope you actually pay for these cards, as opposed to some of your other transactions.

[Leon]

He sent me a long note about what happened and,
since I met him and his son at the National, gave him a second chance. Unlike many members he actually contributes to the forum quite a bit

Originally Posted by pro9

Wesley, hope you actually pay for these cards, as opposed to some of your other transactions.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Leon

He sent me a long note about what happened and,
since I met him and his son at the National, gave him a second chance. Unlike many members he actually contributes to the forum quite a bit

Contribute or not, he owes my friends some money and has for some time. I hope no ones else gets burned by this guy.

S Suckow

[2dueces]

He's a dirt bag using his son as an excuse to get cards, swap crappy cards and blame his son for "getting ahold of them first" Plus transactions never paid for.
Seriously Leon? Cause you met him he's ok? When longtime members of this board and the collecting community say he's a dirt bag? Tell you what, next time you meet him grab a few bucks from him for the people he screwed and tell him to stop buying cards till he honors his debts. He's a liar and a thief.

Edit to put my FULL name so there is no doubt who I am. JOE BRENNAN

[Leon]

Here is what I heard from him below in bold....I see the thread in question btw in the BST..... .. ..and all I see is Big Red One start accusing him out of nowhere? Then everyone starts piling on, what gives?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=236335

his email to me----


I tried calling the number on your web site, left message, but did not receive a call back.
I am just writing to express my side of the situation, as my ban occurred quickly, hast fully and without getting my side of the story.
I am not writing to have my ban lifted, as it is not that big of an issue to me. I just wanted YOU to hear my side.

I am not a big time collector. I am a small collector, on a home budget, that collects for the same reason I collected when I was a child in the 70's, for the enjoyment of the cards and the players, and the story that each card tells. I have never sold a card in my life, as I am a collector and not in the hobby for the money. My life is centered around my wife and 3 children, not cards. I have a full time job that takes up more than 40 hrs a week, I have Baseball/Football/ Basketball practices for my son, I have dance class for my daughter, when I get off work. So I do not have time to check responses every day to posts I put on message boards.
My now 14 year old son (15 at the end of this month), only a few years ago, really got into sportscards after growing out of PokeMan cards. I expressed to him that I too collected sports cards as a child (at this time I had not collected in over 20 years). At this point, is when my son and I began a relationship, bonding hobby of card collecting.
Two years ago, my son and I traveled to Chicago for the National. While at the National, we met YOU and your business partner or friend. We spoke and you were able to allow my son to hold the Honus Wagner card of your friends.

So now that you have my back story, I would like to explain and defend myself to people on the thread that A) talked about me and the post that have no idea about me or the situation, yet feel the need to start shit. B) Say disparaging words like calling me a "Bad Apple", without ever trying to extend an offer to me to find out my side of the story.

On March 5th, I posted a wanting BUY 80's Fleer and Donruss. Let me say that again, I posted wanting to BUY, 80's Fleer and Donruss. My exact words were, "Please let me know what you have and what you need for them."
Since I was already on the site, I responded and conversed with the person on that date. I did not decide to buy for this man as the price was, IMO ridiculous for 80's Fleer and Donruss, as for the 84 Donruss, he wanted $10 per team set, and at 26 teams, thats $260, for a set that you could buy complete on EBAY for $60 (I eventually bought for $20 in MINT, minus the Mattingly).
I was not going to spend $260 on a $60 set. But apparently, I am the asshole for that?

I did return to the thread one week later, and replied to a poster, with what I was looking for. Then left the site again that day.
On the 19th, I did not go to a posters BST and deal with him because the lot was so big that understandably, shipping was going to be in the +$100's range.

So then on the 20th, the bashing started "Big Red One", whom I have no idea why he would post this, stated that, "VERY disappointed in you Wes for using your son as a crutch to get free cards and ripping people off. Shame on you."
I have no idea why he would post that, as I was asking to "BUY" them!!! Never asked to receive them for free, i asked to BUY.
And as proof as you meeting my son, know that my son collects cards, and is passionate about them as I am.
Also, if I was going to use my son to get free cards, WHY WOULD I DO IT FOR 80's FLEER AND DONRUSS?????? Really??
I have bought many cards from many members, only having one bad experience with a person from LTS (I feel he was scamming me) whom I offered to make good.

Then from there, people that I have never spoken to on the board, people that I have never dealt with in any form, people that did not know me, all started piling on, and asking me to respond to a post that was posted 5 days prior. Again, I HAVE A LIFE AND DO NOT LIVE ON NET 54!! I guess I made the mistake of going to my job for more than 40 hours, coming home and spending time with my wife, taking my kids to practice, games, performances, and keeping my house up.

Then I read where I was banned five days after John's post! Weird, because I was banned and called a "Bad Apple", by a person that took the word of people that have no clue about what was going on, and banned by a guy that never PM'd me asking for my side

Your sight is the BEST when it comes to knowledge about cards. It serves as the BEST place to come to learn and receive advice of cards, and to do research of cards. For the sake of the Hobby, I wish the site the very best.

Its just sad that you ban people on rumors, unsubstantiated posts, and people just trying to start problems.
Again, I am not asking to be unbanned. I just wanted you to hear my side.

Originally Posted by 2dueces

He's a dirt bag using his son as an excuse to get cards, swap crappy cards and blame his son for "getting ahold of them first" Plus transactions never paid for.
Seriously Leon? Cause you met him he's ok? When longtime members of this board and the collecting community say he's a dirt bag? Tell you what, next time you meet him grab a few bucks from him for the people he screwed and tell him to stop buying cards till he honors his debts. He's a liar and a thief.

Edit to put my FULL name so there is no doubt who I am. JOE BRENNAN

[Leon]

My understanding is completely different. My understanding is there was a mass piling on for no good reason. I have seen it done here before but not as much since some bad apples got shown the door. So what is the story? No one should rip anyone off and my guess is this is probably another gang mentality piece of crap. But I could be wrong?

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Contribute or not, he owes my friends some money and has for some time. I hope no ones else gets burned by this guy.

S Suckow

[Leon]

Who and how much? I hope you guys don't just quack and run away. Let's hear it. Put up or shut up.

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Contribute or not, he owes my friends some money and has for some time. I hope no ones else gets burned by this guy.

S Suckow

[2dueces]

I am right here. No one is running away. This is not gang mentality. These are the facts. You were PMed by trusted long time board members about this guy. I've been on this board since 2000. Not a matter to take lightly. Some of the parties in question are not members of this board but many collecting friends are. It's not just one incidence with this guy. That may be excused as oversight. This is a combination of shady dealing, promised payments and ignored emails. Many chances were given for him to rectify all the situations he found himself and all went unresolved. He went underground for a few months but surfaced thinking the coast was clear. I will contact the parties involved so you don't think we chirped and ducked.
Joe Brennan

[Leon]

Looks like gang mentality from where I sit. Let's hear specifics?
Hearsay and innuendo ain't cutting it for me. Nothing personal.

Originally Posted by 2dueces

I am right here. No one is running away. This is not gang mentality. These is cold hard facts. You were PMed by trusted long time board members about this guy. I've been on this board since 2000. Not a matter to take lightly. Some of the parties in question are not members of this board but many collecting friends are. It's not just one incidence with this guy. That may be excused as oversight. This is a combination of shady dealing, promised payments and ignored emails. Many chances were given for him to rectify all the situations he found himself and all went unresolved. He went underground for a few months but surfaced thinking the coast was clear. I will contact the parties involved so you don't think we chirped and ducked.
Joe Brennan

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by Leon

He sent me a long note about what happened and,
since I met him and his son at the National, gave him a second chance. Unlike many members he actually contributes to the forum quite a bit

So that is a factor in your decision making?

[2dueces]

Here's the facts. You're defending some dickwad you met at the national over long time trusted board members. That is the facts.

[Leon]

Yeap

Originally Posted by the-illini

So that is a factor in your decision making?

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yeap

Page hits >>>> honesty. Good to know.

[Leon]

Stupid comments are also appreciated. Carry on...

btw, the latest email *just now, explaining what happened on the Secret Santa site.....below I asked if there is money owed somewhere?


Not that I know of.

The ONLY person/deal i have EVER had an issue with was Robinson on LTS.

The deal with that was this....
I put a post requesting, wanting to buy a "lot" of 1969 Topps Baseball.

Mr. Robinson wrote that he put some in the mail to me. When I asked how much he wanted for them, he stated to just look at them and send him what I thought was fair amount for them.
They came in the mail, My son sorted them, picking out the ones that we already had and could send back to him along with the money.
After going through them, i asked him what he was hoping to get for them. I was thinking maybe $150 for the lot of around 150, or $1 @. His quote was over $400.
No way could I do that. So i told him they were sorted, but I would go through and pick them out, as his were all "white back" with sharp corners.
So I did that, found all the white backs and sharp corners, and I sent them all back.
When he got them, he stated not all of them were there. I asked him which ones and he didnt know, just that some were missing. He then asked me to send my ENTIRE COLLECTION OF 1969 Topps BASEBALL to him, so he could go thru them and pick which ones were his!!!! Seriously, I was going to send someone my 3/4ths complete set of 1969?
So one of the mods called me personally on the phone. I told him that the simple solution of this was to simply have Mr. Robinson shoot me a price for what he thought were missing. I thought that was fair. I was paying for the cards he thought were missing, and offered $100 for them, even thou I was not convinced there were ANY cards missing.
I told the mod to let me know what Mr. Robinson said. Next morning I banned from LTS and now this.

On Monday, April 17, 2017 7:22 AM, leon luckey wrote:

Do you owe someone money as Steven is saying on the board?
LL

Originally Posted by the-illini

Page hits >>>> honesty. Good to know.