$OLD pet peeve

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Disagree with you big time there Steven. Pricing information is key for the hobby as for one it signals which cards/sets we can focus on based on budget. If I run across a card/set I'm not familiar with on BST and the offer price has been deleted I can't make a quick judgement if it fits into a future buying opportunity. Man I really love that (fill in the blank!) and now know it was being offered for $500, I'll put that in memory or on my list of something to pursue in the future. For all the dealers using BST, it behooves you to educate your customers and treat them fairly as they will most likely come back for multiple transactions.

You think the Dr. getting kicked off his United flight will be flying United anytime soon? lol

AJ, everything you talk about has to do with the hobbyist, not the hobby. Whether you participate in the hobby or not does nothing for the hobby itself...at least the way I think of it. All your points, all your issues within this have to do with providing the community with as much information as possible. I just don't agree this has anything to do with bettering the hobby....strongly.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

I agree with ya there Orly, but you are neither the buyer nor the seller in that scenario.

How exactly does the hobby progress with price information anyway? It does nothing for the hobby itself. And no, I am not a dealer in any way and never have been.

Originally Posted by rainier2004

AJ, everything you talk about has to do with the hobbyist, not the hobby. Whether you participate in the hobby or not does nothing for the hobby itself...at least the way I think of it. All your points, all your issues within this have to do with providing the community with as much information as possible. I just don't agree this has anything to do with bettering the hobby....strongly.

Well I just gave you an example. Does the hobby get stronger if potential buyers know more about cards/sets and what they cost? I think so. It certainly benefits future sellers on BST if they've got more interested buyers. And I become an interested buyer when I know a certain card/set fits into my budget. At the end of the day the BST is a place where hobbyists come together to buy, sell and trade within the trusting net54 community. Deleting asking prices because you're afraid of having to validate your asking price when it comes time to sell is a poor excuse from taking away from the community at large.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Well I just gave you an example. Does the hobby get stronger if potential buyers know more about cards/sets and what they cost? I think so. It certainly benefits future sellers on BST if they've got more interested buyers. And I become an interested buyer when I know a certain card/set fits into my budget. At the end of the day the BST is a place where hobbyists come together to buy, sell and trade within the trusting net54 community. Deleting asking prices because you're afraid of having to validate your asking price when it comes time to sell is a poor excuse from taking away from the community at large.

It certainly benefits future buyers if sellers make money on the cards that buyers want so they can continue to sell cards to potential buyers.

At the beginning of the day, Net54 is a place where people come to talk about a lot of things, one of which is selling cards and reaching buyers, one method of such through advertising, which like everything else, is up for a certain period in time, and then it is no longer available.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

It certainly benefits future buyers if sellers make money on the cards that buyers want so they can continue to sell cards to potential buyers.

At the beginning of the day, Net54 is a place where people come to talk about a lot of things, one of which is selling cards and reaching buyers, one method of such through advertising, which like everything else, is up for a certain period in time, and then it is no longer available.

please keep going...you're doing a great job of making my point

[PhillipAbbott79]

You clearly didn't read what I wrote.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

we've already established that historical prices realized are kept and found on ebay and AH's...why not BST? And on BST it would only be "Asking Prices" not final. So your comment about advertising and no longer being available is nonsensical to this discussion.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Asking prices
Ebay: Asking prices disappear after 6 months.
Website: Asking prices may disappear at any time.
Auction sites: Auction sites come and go. Not all auction sites maintain opening bid pricing or reserve information for you to never endingly stroll through.

Sale prices
Ebay: Private sale prices are not displayed readily.
Website: Sale prices are not displayed readily at all.
Auction sites: Not all auction sites maintain a history for you to never endingly stroll through or may disappear at any time.

Seems right on par to me. These items are businesses. People selling cards on this forum may or may not be.

[Bicem]

If you were truly interested in benefiting the hobby you'd start a thread sharing actual hobby/card knowledge and not put so much emphasis on prices, values, etc.

[rdixon1208]

While it's not a huge deal to me, I generally don't like people knowing how much I pay for things, cards or otherwise. If me not wanting to share that info somehow leads to someone paying more than they would have otherwise, and that's what we're really talking about here, then so be it.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by rdixon1208

While it's not a huge deal to me, I generally don't like people knowing how much I pay for things, cards or otherwise. If me not wanting to share that info somehow leads to someone paying more than they would have otherwise, and that's what we're really talking about here, then so be it.

I dont disagree with that. However when you hear sellers in negotiations say 'cant do it for that, i have more than that into the card' If i then saw the asking price on that very same card in a prior recent sale for less (assume that was the card the seller previously bought) than what the seller was asking then I would know about the seller integrity for example..

basically im fine for all the secrets, even though in houses everyone knows what people paid for the most part, but i dont want to hear it from sellers how much they paid for a card when they try to negotiate but that very same seller removing prices of what the asking price was on a card they bought. cant have it both ways for me..

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Bicem

If you were truly interested in benefiting the hobby you'd start a thread sharing actual hobby/card knowledge and not put so much emphasis on prices, values, etc.

right!