T206 Wagner Sales History

bigfanNY · #1 04-06-2017, 01:13 PM

In 1974 or early 75 there was a NY times ad offering a Wagner for $1500.00 my Dad called and was told that someone had already looked at it said it was in vg condition and passed on the card. Owner said others had said they were coming to look at card. My dad said he would buy the card but owner said first $1500 got the card. Owner called back 15 minutes later and said card was sold.
Jonathan

TCMA · #2 04-06-2017, 04:22 PM

My father bought and sold three different T206 Wagner cards between the years of 1972 and 1974, then again in 1984. I still have a hand written receipt for his second Wagner and a letter of provenance related to the third.

irv · #3 04-06-2017, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Not sure if this has been shared yet or not, but I read this a few days back....while no dollar amounts are shown, the chain of ownership for this particular copy is discussed

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...-scp-auctions/

Great story!

whiteymet · #4 04-06-2017, 06:43 PM

I was the buyer for one of the Wagner's Andrew mentions that his Dad Mike Aronstein sold.

I have written about it elsewhere here on Net54.

Fred

rats60 · #5 04-06-2017, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteymet

I was the buyer for one of the Wagner's Andrew mentions that his Dad Mike Aronstein sold.

I have written about it elsewhere here on Net54.

Fred

Do you still have it?

whiteymet · #6 04-06-2017, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60

Do you still have it?

No, sold it to Halper years ago. It was his first Wagner.

Lost track of it never knew what Halper did with it, then it turned up in a Goodwin auction and sold for $1.2 MILLION!!! I knew it was mine because of a unique crease.

See:

https://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.a...entoryid=19548

Fred

Jason19th · #7 04-06-2017, 09:29 PM

Here is a want ad from the 1946 ACC looking for a Wagner
I have also included the listed price for the Wagner from 46 ACC. It seems to be an accepted fact that Wagner was listed at 50 from the earliest guides (even REA descriptions state it). But as you can see it simply isn't true. I don't think that the figure was 50 until the guides in the mid 50's. I know this is a small point but I have always found it odd how often it is misstated

charlietheexterminator · #8 04-07-2017, 02:23 AM

It was late 1978 or early 1979, I was working for a fur dying & dressing company called Meisel & Peskin Fur Dressers, located in Brooklyn, NY, Union Local 122. It was my first adult job and I was the youngest guy working with a group of old-timers. This group of guys were straight out of a movie. They drank, gambled and talked sports all day. When things were slow we played poker all day. One day during poker we were talking about baseball cards and my Dispatcher, his name was Emil (Red) Weiss, an old-timer, said do I know about the Wagner card. I said sure do, that I have purchased many t206 cards from my local coin store for 25 cents each in the early 70's. Red then stood up, pulled out his wallet and slowly pulled out a Wagner. He told me his father owned a saloon back in the day and he would clean up at night and go through all the empty cigarette packs on the floor. This is how he came up with the Wagner. The first words out of my mouth were (do you want to sell it). He replied sure, for $500 it's yours. The Wagner had its share of creases even though it was protected in a thin plastic. I thought $500 was a bit too much, so the negotiation started. I was earning $200 a week take home and this was good money at that time but not enough to afford the Wagner. Red would not budge on his price, so I had to come up with the money. I wound up getting the $500 from a loan shark that worked with a different division of Meisel Peskin on the 2nd floor. Now I owned a Wagner. My girlfriend called me an idiot, but still married me in the summer of 79. Now it was late 1979 or early 1980 and I read in the daily news about an upcoming baseball card show in a Manhattan Hotel. The day of the show, I grabbed the Wagner and a buddy and headed to the show. I was thinking about selling it but had nothing to go by regarding price. When I arrived, I showed the card to the first dealer as we entered. It didn't take long, I had a crowd around me. The gentleman running the show ask if I would like to put it up for auction. I said sure as I needed the money with a child on the way. The final price was $2,200 or $2,250. I remember getting home and slapping the money down on the table and saying to my wife, (who's the idiot now). I talk about it all the time, she is tired of hearing it. A few members here know the story already. Oh well. It's Wagner #17 on t206Resourse.

Pat R · #9 04-07-2017, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlietheexterminator

It was late 1978 or early 1979, I was working for a fur dying & dressing company called Meisel & Peskin Fur Dressers, located in Brooklyn, NY, Union Local 122. It was my first adult job and I was the youngest guy working with a group of old-timers. This group of guys were straight out of a movie. They drank, gambled and talked sports all day. When things were slow we played poker all day. One day during poker we were talking about baseball cards and my Dispatcher, his name was Emil (Red) Weiss, an old-timer, said do I know about the Wagner card. I said sure do, that I have purchased many t206 cards from my local coin store for 25 cents each in the early 70's. Red then stood up, pulled out his wallet and slowly pulled out a Wagner. He told me his father owned a saloon back in the day and he would clean up at night and go through all the empty cigarette packs on the floor. This is how he came up with the Wagner. The first words out of my mouth were (do you want to sell it). He replied sure, for $500 it's yours. The Wagner had its share of creases even though it was protected in a thin plastic. I thought $500 was a bit too much, so the negotiation started. I was earning $200 a week take home and this was good money at that time but not enough to afford the Wagner. Red would not budge on his price, so I had to come up with the money. I wound up getting the $500 from a loan shark that worked with a different division of Meisel Peskin on the 2nd floor. Now I owned a Wagner. My girlfriend called me an idiot, but still married me in the summer of 79. Now it was late 1979 or early 1980 and I read in the daily news about an upcoming baseball card show in a Manhattan Hotel. The day of the show, I grabbed the Wagner and a buddy and headed to the show. I was thinking about selling it but had nothing to go by regarding price. When I arrived, I showed the card to the first dealer as we entered. It didn't take long, I had a crowd around me. The gentleman running the show ask if I would like to put it up for auction. I said sure as I needed the money with a child on the way. The final price was $2,200 or $2,250. I remember getting home and slapping the money down on the table and saying to my wife, (who's the idiot now). I talk about it all the time, she is tired of hearing it. A few members here know the story already. Oh well. It's Wagner #17 on t206Resourse.

What a cool story Chuck. The last reported sale of that Wagner was a Lelands
Auction in December of 2003.
17.jpg

Eggoman · #10 04-07-2017, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R

What a cool story Chuck. The last reported sale of that Wagner was a Lelands
Auction in December of 2003.
Attachment 268635

+1

If you have had your cards long enough, who of us has NOT been on the receiving end of "You're an Idiot!!!" ????

Just saying...

uniship · #11 04-07-2017, 10:13 AM

outstanding story on that wagner for $500!!!

ullmandds · #12 04-07-2017, 10:19 AM

thats a whale of a story Chuck!!!! congrats!!!!!

CW · #13 04-07-2017, 11:05 AM

Great story, Chuck!

jakeinge · #14 04-07-2017, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlietheexterminator

It was late 1978 or early 1979, I was working for a fur dying & dressing company called Meisel & Peskin Fur Dressers, located in Brooklyn, NY, Union Local 122. It was my first adult job and I was the youngest guy working with a group of old-timers. This group of guys were straight out of a movie. They drank, gambled and talked sports all day. When things were slow we played poker all day. One day during poker we were talking about baseball cards and my Dispatcher, his name was Emil (Red) Weiss, an old-timer, said do I know about the Wagner card. I said sure do, that I have purchased many t206 cards from my local coin store for 25 cents each in the early 70's. Red then stood up, pulled out his wallet and slowly pulled out a Wagner. He told me his father owned a saloon back in the day and he would clean up at night and go through all the empty cigarette packs on the floor. This is how he came up with the Wagner. The first words out of my mouth were (do you want to sell it). He replied sure, for $500 it's yours. The Wagner had its share of creases even though it was protected in a thin plastic. I thought $500 was a bit too much, so the negotiation started. I was earning $200 a week take home and this was good money at that time but not enough to afford the Wagner. Red would not budge on his price, so I had to come up with the money. I wound up getting the $500 from a loan shark that worked with a different division of Meisel Peskin on the 2nd floor. Now I owned a Wagner. My girlfriend called me an idiot, but still married me in the summer of 79. Now it was late 1979 or early 1980 and I read in the daily news about an upcoming baseball card show in a Manhattan Hotel. The day of the show, I grabbed the Wagner and a buddy and headed to the show. I was thinking about selling it but had nothing to go by regarding price. When I arrived, I showed the card to the first dealer as we entered. It didn't take long, I had a crowd around me. The gentleman running the show ask if I would like to put it up for auction. I said sure as I needed the money with a child on the way. The final price was $2,200 or $2,250. I remember getting home and slapping the money down on the table and saying to my wife, (who's the idiot now). I talk about it all the time, she is tired of hearing it. A few members here know the story already. Oh well. It's Wagner #17 on t206Resourse.

Holy Mother of God.....

Joshwesley · #15 04-07-2017, 12:58 PM

Chuck!
Awesome story and a bit depressing

Very cool!

Any idea what the card sold for in 2003?

I'm sure it's a painful number.

brianp-beme · #16 04-07-2017, 06:41 PM

Great story...I like the fact that the gentleman carried the Wagner around in his wallet. That has to account for a lot of the creases.

Brian

Leon · #17 04-11-2017, 12:55 PM

There are probably earlier valuations but Burdick said value was 2 bucks a piece for Plank or Wagner, in 1943. Set #521 Baseball Series, white border, approximately 3/4 of the page down...

Leon · #18 04-18-2017, 02:26 PM

Let's give this one nudge to the top to see if anyone else has seen some early valuations or sales of Wags or Plank?

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