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Old 03-20-2017, 11:06 AM
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I understand and appreciate the desire for certainty, but that is not what PSA is paid to do. The QA response is the equivalent of "not guilty"; it isn't an affirmative assertion of "innocent", it is a representation that the evidence didn't prove guilt. The TPG isn't asked to determine if an item is "counterfeit", it is asked to determine if an item is authentic and if so, what condition it is in. The QA statement means that the TPG couldn't state it was authentic, not that the item is counterfeit. It is certainly motivated by legal considerations; if you want the TPGs to issue a damning "counterfeit" designation on items, i.e., to take an affirmative position and render a conclusive opinion that will cost the owners real money, you need to be prepared to pay more for grading services to cover the risks of errors and the damages that may be awarded to an injured party. We aren't going to get that for $7.
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Adam is correct, but it is also true that the term they use is needlessly strange and ambiguous. They could use the label of "not graded or holdered" or something like that.
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Questionable Authenticity fits the bill just fine. A lot of devious people try to play havoc with the wording though just to pass their fakes off as real.
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This post should kill this thread.

This is really how simple it is. Both card pictured are counterfeit. The one sent to PSA got a 8 NM-MT grade. The one sent to SGC came back with a flip that says NO and with a card with COUNTERFEIT checked. Any questions?
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This is really how simple it is. Both card pictured are counterfeit. The one sent to PSA got a 8 NM-MT grade. The one sent to SGC came back with a flip that says NO and with a card with COUNTERFEIT checked. Any questions?
but Ben...that's not possible?!?!?!? PSA is the 2nd coming and SGC sucks. right????
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but Ben...that's not possible?!?!?!? PSA is the 2nd coming and SGC sucks. right????
Reality sucks sometimes.
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The sellers name is: thankforthescrewjob (1524 )
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What's it say on the bat knob?
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