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Old 03-18-2017, 11:03 AM
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Interesting discussion. To me, the most unique feature of this set's production and distribution that made it different from any other (as far as I know), is that people who sent in for them were allowed to request what player they wanted, as someone touched on earlier. Not knowing what kind of demand there would be, I'm guessing the printer wouldn't have wanted to print that many, if any, beforehand. Also, I have found it interesting that the centering on T3s, overall, is amazing compared to other issues of the time. I have also never seen a single miscut, "name on top", or any other indication common with known sheet prints to exist in the T3 set, which could also indicate individual printing.

On the other hand, as someone pointed out, if they printed individually then demand for Cobb's, Mattys, etc would mean that there would be 20x more stars than commons to have survived, which based on experience and pop reports is not the case.

It's clear I have no definitive answers, but as someone working on this set, I'll definitely be doing some more research on this question.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:05 PM
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Interesting discussion. To me, the most unique feature of this set's production and distribution that made it different from any other (as far as I know), is that people who sent in for them were allowed to request what player they wanted, as someone touched on earlier. Not knowing what kind of demand there would be, I'm guessing the printer wouldn't have wanted to print that many, if any, beforehand. Also, I have found it interesting that the centering on T3s, overall, is amazing compared to other issues of the time. I have also never seen a single miscut, "name on top", or any other indication common with known sheet prints to exist in the T3 set, which could also indicate individual printing.

On the other hand, as someone pointed out, if they printed individually then demand for Cobb's, Mattys, etc would mean that there would be 20x more stars than commons to have survived, which based on experience and pop reports is not the case.

It's clear I have no definitive answers, but as someone working on this set, I'll definitely be doing some more research on this question.
Hey There Conor!

Well the 2 areas THaT I Believe to be true... imho
Are these:

1st, Because there are "Proofs" out there,
I believe THaT THeY were Not Made Individually.

2nd, "Requesting a Player", Such as a Noted HoF'er
Doesn't mean THaT THeY Didn't Send You a Common
Wit an Apology & a Bonus of Some Sort!
Heck, it EVeN Happens TaDaY Wit Redemptions Cards...

I Certainly NeVar Want ta be Negative...
These are MoST Surely My Positive Observations
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:59 PM
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Hello,

Denny's point about which cards were actually sent versus what was requested is 100% correct. Here is the wording on the redemption coupons:


Write plainly your name and address, stating
picture desired. Three (3) selections should be
made, 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. In the event we
have neither, we reserve the right to substitute
another.


To Conor's point (which I also touched on) about the lack of off-centered cards, I'd just guess that it would be much easier to precisely cut a sheet of Turkey Reds than a sheet of much smaller cards like T206s. The cards do come in a wide variety of actual sizes (slight variations of the intended 5 3/4 x 8). Some quite a bit larger and others much smaller. They also can be found slightly off-center, but nothing like we're used to seeing with smaller tobacco cards.

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Craig
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:46 PM
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Hello,

Denny's point about which cards were actually sent versus what was requested is 100% correct. Here is the wording on the redemption coupons:


Write plainly your name and address, stating
picture desired. Three (3) selections should be
made, 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. In the event we
have neither, we reserve the right to substitute
another.


To Conor's point (which I also touched on) about the lack of off-centered cards, I'd just guess that it would be much easier to precisely cut a sheet of Turkey Reds than a sheet of much smaller cards like T206s. The cards do come in a wide variety of actual sizes (slight variations of the intended 5 3/4 x 8). Some quite a bit larger and others much smaller. They also can be found slightly off-center, but nothing like we're used to seeing with smaller tobacco cards.

Best,
Craig
Yes, and not only are they fairly large, but the borders are really big. Being off by 1/4 inch on centering wouldn't be all that obvious, but on a little card it's "wow look at that".

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