Cool T80/T206 Find -- Cairo Monopol

tedzan · #1 03-13-2017, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitzu

Yet recently my luck struck again and I acquired a Cairo Monopol pack and I wanted to share its picture with the rest of you. I can't make out the date on the tax stamp (but it has to be sometime after 1901), and it is odd as the box has one factory on it and the tax stamp has another.

Either way enjoy and I would love to hear any thoughts of it.

The Tax stamp date is 1907. The T80 cards were printed and issued in early Spring 1911 with these 4 backs (and very seldom found Old Mill backs).
The very attractive Cairo Monopol pack you have did not contain these T80 cards.
Nevertheless, it's a neat item and thanks for displaying it.

TED Z
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swarmee · #2 03-13-2017, 08:27 PM

Post it over on the nonsports side, and don't forget to show the front. ;-)

Blitzu · #3 03-13-2017, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee

Post it over on the nonsports side, and don't forget to show the front. ;-)

That forum is practically dead...and for me the fronts don't matter at all. I honestly wouldn't care if this was an error card and honus wagner was printed on the front

all that matters to me are the backs. I would try and get a better example of this Cairo Monopol (no pin hole would be nice) but these rarely ever become available. There's only that really over priced one on eBay that I've seen in the last few years.

egbeachley · #4 03-16-2017, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitzu

That forum is practically dead....

Does that mean this forum is on life-support? The non-sports pickup thread has 50% the posts that the pickup thread has here.

Maybe the non-sports forum can spice things up like they do here. Maybe a few posts on local card shows. Or something interesting and new regarding bid retractions or fake cards on eBay. How about Auction house reminders? Or "Show your whatevers".

Actually, some of those aren't bad ideas.

ty_cobb · #5 03-17-2017, 08:34 PM

I'm pretty sure The T80 Cairo on eBay now was mine. Price seems a tad high? but maybe he's looking for the St Patricks day pot of gold. I sold my set 3 yrs ago. lets see whats left in this stack here,,,, 2 Old Mills , 2 Uzits , 3 Cairo Monopols

mrvster · #6 03-18-2017, 07:05 AM

great stuff my friend!

Jim R is an expert on these

Blitzu · #7 03-13-2017, 08:31 PM

Hi Ted, and thanks for looking at the tax stamp. I still can't make out the printed date but the factories are clearly different from the card (factory 30). But just finding a Cairo Monopol shell around that time frame is what I am really happy with seeing as I haven't found another example before. Has anyone seen another and if so any from factory 30?

I also have all five T80 backs (uzit, old mill, Lenox, tolstoi, and the blank):

steve B · #8 03-14-2017, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan

The Tax stamp date is 1907. The T80 cards were printed and issued in early Spring 1911 with these 4 backs (and very seldom found Old Mill backs).
The very attractive Cairo Monopol pack you have did not contain these T80 cards.
Nevertheless, it's a neat item and thanks for displaying it.

TED Z
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I can't read the date on the cancel, but the series is 1901, which was used from 1901-08. Still no T-80 inside, but I can't imagine a brand that had fairly low sales would have changed the package much unless they really needed to.

Steve B

tedzan · #9 03-14-2017, 05:00 PM

Steve B

The Cairo Monopol Cigarette pack shown above had to be modified in order to include a T80 card.
The T80 cards with Cairo Monopol back advertisements (Factory #30 N.Y.) could only be inserted
in a pack designated Factory #30.....as required by the Federal Tobacco Tax law.

TED Z
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ty_cobb · #10 03-14-2017, 06:54 PM

Nice Cairo pack (even if not in date period) very cool. I'm pretty sure Ive got some Old Mill & Uzit T80s still. Maybe one Monopol left, they are tough.

Blitzu · #11 03-14-2017, 07:52 PM

Just in case there is any confusion I never meant to imply that this pack housed a T80, or the one in my photo. I simply was putting a face finally to the boxes that likely housed them as I have never seen another example before.

Thanks

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steve B · #12 03-14-2017, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan

Steve B

The Cairo Monopol Cigarette pack shown above had to be modified in order to include a T80 card.
The T80 cards with Cairo Monopol back advertisements (Factory #30 N.Y.) could only be inserted
in a pack designated Factory #30.....as required by the Federal Tobacco Tax law.

TED Z
.

Of course, it's the wrong year and wrong factory whichever factory it's from. If it is, the paper label factory change is interesting.

The point was that I think the brand would probably have used a pack that was the same except for the factory number.

Although, when did they become part of ATC? The tax stamp appears to be their own. And I can't recall seeing an ATC brand without an ATC cancel on the stamp.
The factory change on the tax stamp probably wouldn't have bothered the federal tax people. The accounting was done once the stamp was cancelled, and the biggest thing was collecting the tax.

Steve B

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