T206 - PWCC Auction Last Night

[Epps]

Some T206 prices were wild, but did anyone see the T210-8 Manuel that sold for $3600. Pretty wild. Two people must have really wanted to complete a set. It would be interesting to see what one would sell for if offered at auction today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142299126562...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[CMIZ5290]

Most of the T206 prices were beyond crazy, big time...

[jburl]

Originally Posted by Epps

Some T206 prices were wild, but did anyone see the T210-8 Manuel that sold for $3600. Pretty wild. Two people must have really wanted to complete a set. It would be interesting to see what one would sell for if offered at auction today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142299126562...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Yeah, I was watching that one for a buddy who was considering it, but it went well past what he wanted to pay. Pretty floored by that one.

[Touch'EmAll]

Gee, the strong prices are making it real tough to hit the button with a serious bid. The nice grade T206 HOFers now out of my budget. Glad I picked them up a decade or so ago. Maybe if a couple speculative stocks I have finally hit, then it might be game on again. Until then, sidelines for me. Sigh.

[PhillipAbbott79]

I would agree with that. It is getting pretty expensive to get a nice HOF 5 or 6 of Young, Matty, and Johnson. Obviously Cobb also.

I believe there are new people hunting these cards down. There are guys out there willing to put 20k on a blackjack table. Why not gamble on card prices. I think you see people going heavy on mid grade HOF players. They are still within reach for some people, they turn over in the market fast should you want to sell them and they are going up.

That is an explosive combination to get people interested. It always huts when there is a card you want at a price and you hold off only to find out you missed the boat. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, pay the price and wait for it to meet what you paid for it or you will always be at the dock.

[Piratedogcardshows]

Originally Posted by Epps

Some T206 prices were wild, but did anyone see the T210-8 Manuel that sold for $3600. Pretty wild. Two people must have really wanted to complete a set. It would be interesting to see what one would sell for if offered at auction today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142299126562...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The Manuel card was a bit of a surprise to me as well. Just like the Series 7 Mayer that went for 1400 a week or two ago. Some T210's sell for pennies and some for big bucks. I guess its all in what advanced collectors need at the moment.

[Billy5858]

I won the Shag. This was one of those cases for me where quoting a member on this group "sometimes you just gotta say what the hell". I forgot exactly what he said. And go for it. I've seen previous auctions where the same grade OM back went for 1200-1400. But this one was so perfect looking I couldn't resist. I'm sure it being an HE card also had something to do with the high price as well. I've always loved this card. Shag looks so respectful with his pose. Plus I'll never own a beautiful Green Cobb so for me this was the next best thing to it. Gonna keep for a long time. A keeper
I thought the horizontal Murphy 400+ was a bit high.

[seablaster]

Originally Posted by Jason

The Manuel card was a bit of a surprise to me as well. Just like the Series 7 Mayer that went for 1400 a week or two ago. Some T210's sell for pennies and some for big bucks. I guess its all in what advanced collectors need at the moment.

Ditto.

That Manuel was the highest price I remember seeing paid on a non-Jackson/Stengel T210.

[ullmandds]

very, very strong prices on those t206's. the consigner must be very, very happy!

not sure if I'm believing that these "new" prices will stick on "common", t206 cobbs and such. time will tell. could be market manipulation similar to last years run on 50's hof rookies. there ARE some out there with a lot of t206 cobbs after all!!!!!

[PhillipAbbott79]

Interesting thought. Wouldn't that require a very substantial amount of money? How does someone do that without everyone realizing what is happening?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

Interesting thought. Wouldn't that require a very substantial amount of money? How does someone do that without everyone realizing what is happening?

it happened last year for a spell and the majority of collectors/investors on this very site bought into it!!!

there is atleast 1 "collector/investor" on this site with dozens and dozens of t206 cobbs.

all one needs is a "shill" system which seems to be de rigeur on ebay these days with certain sellers and a few "sales" whether real or not to psychologically drive up prices.

i'm not saying this IS happening...but it certainly could be.
history tends to repeat itself!

[PhillipAbbott79]

I believe that there are other cards that would be much easier to try and corner the market on, than a Cobb that costs as much as 10k each.

If you believe the card is going to run, of course you will buy into it.

I have several myself in different grades, in different backs and I am still buying more. If you look at the population charts, it really only takes a few people trying to put together a Green Cobb back run in solid condition to dry up the numbers.

What card are you talking about that was manipulated before?

[Leon]

This manipulation only works for lazy or unsuspecting collectors. If there is a sudden spike in prices no one is forcing anyone to bid or buy a card. Remember when a '63 Rose in an 8 holder was 15k? It didn't work then and it won't work now. And my guess is that is the way authorities probably feel too. At some point we have to be accountable for ourselves. And yes, I think the bid retractions are the worst thing about what is going on. It is the way these sales are trying to be manipulated, imo. But knowledge is key so don't play into it.

Originally Posted by ullmandds

it happened last year for a spell and the majority of collectors/investors on this very site bought into it!!!

there is atleast 1 "collector/investor" on this site with dozens and dozens of t206 cobbs.

all one needs is a "shill" system which seems to be de rigeur on ebay these days with certain sellers and a few "sales" whether real or not to psychologically drive up prices.

i'm not saying this IS happening...but it certainly could be.
history tends to repeat itself!