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Old 03-12-2017, 05:55 PM
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Lajoie.

Interesting, that it seems like Cobb's picks were really more based on defense, as that is the main thrust in his article. That's the dead-ball era, I suppose.
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OK, now that we have seen opinions on the starting line-ups, who would be your starters including pitcher? Let's say pre 1930....
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Bill james ranks collins way ahead of lajoie. Good enough for me. 40 points higher on base percent and twice as many steals may be why.
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Ill go with Collins as well.
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Bill james ranks collins way ahead of lajoie. Good enough for me. 40 points higher on base percent and twice as many steals may be why.
Bill James is nuts. How can anybody rank Collins "way" ahead of Lajoie? Makes no sense....
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As a hitter I judge Lajoie superior, although they were different types. Collins was more a lead off hitter type with a high OBP due to many more walks, and lots of steals. Lajoie drove in more runs and had a much better slugging percentage. For me the best indicator was who got into the HOF first as the voters actually saw both play: Lajoie-1937, Collins-1939. BTW, for all Mickey Mantle fans, Lajoie, based on a 162 game season, averaged more RBIs , despite being a second baseman and playing in the dead ball era, than Mantle did.
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It's a bit of a trick question, depending on what you mean by "T206 era". Lajoie already had 10 full seasons under his belt before T206, to Collins one. Nap was done by 1916, and Collins played more than a decade longer. If you want to compare full career stats of the two, then you are really going well beyond the "T206" era, and since Collins' career included most of Rogers Hornsby's seasons too, I would argue that Rajah was better than either of them, certainly so as a hitter.
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