PWCC Bid History

[SMPEP]

I agree Ed. When you're bidding $XXX.99, you aren't trying to win the item. Especially when there is a string of bids at $169.99, $174,99, $179.99 - all the way up to $199.99.

Cheers,
patrick

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I agree Ed. When you're bidding $XXX.99, you aren't trying to win the item. Especially when there is a string of bids at $169.99, $174,99, $179.99 - all the way up to $199.99.

Cheers,
patrick

I disagree with that assertion. I have bid in small increments trying to see what the high bidder is without trying to outbid the high bidder (as they would get a 'youve been outbid alert')

[Republicaninmass]

Only begs the question,

"does Brent own the card?"

[glchen]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I disagree with that assertion. I have bid in small increments trying to see what the high bidder is without trying to outbid the high bidder (as they would get a 'youve been outbid alert')

I don't understand the logic behind this. Aren't you trying to win the card? If you bid the high bidder up to his max, but don't have any intention to overtake it, isn't this shilling?

[Rich Falvo]

Originally Posted by glchen

I don't understand the logic behind this. Aren't you trying to win the card? If you bid the high bidder up to his max, but don't have any intention to overtake it, isn't this shilling?

Thanks, I was just about to ask the same thing.

[VoodooChild]

Originally Posted by glchen

I don't understand the logic behind this. Aren't you trying to win the card? If you bid the high bidder up to his max, but don't have any intention to overtake it, isn't this shilling?

I believe he is trying to figure out, as close as he can without the current high bidder being notified, what the current winning could be. That way, he can put in a snipe at the end and win it for the minimum amount he can. Even though I feel that practice is ridiculous, ebay allows it to happen so what can you do. That is why I pay no attention to the bid history of an item and just place my max bid during the last few seconds. I know people are playing these silly bidding games (because ebay allows it) and I choose not to let it drive me nuts by inspecting the bid history.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by glchen

I don't understand the logic behind this. Aren't you trying to win the card? If you bid the high bidder up to his max, but don't have any intention to overtake it, isn't this shilling?

No i do have an intention of overtaking it but dont want to alert him that he was outbid......works well on low value cards like 10 dollars....i wait till the end to put in my bid and assuming the high bidder doesnt have a snipe, maybe i win the card easier versus alerting the bidder earlier that he was outbid. The 1 dollar can make a difference... If doing my early bids i can see he is already well beyond what i would be willing to bid i dont bother checking out the end of that auction. How many times in other AHs do you bid again when you get an email that you were 'outbid' but if you didnt get that email you dont bid.

When bid increments are $1.00 for example and you can see you are outbid by .02 cents, you know your next bid will be top bidder. Id rather not make that top bid until at the end of the auction instead of alerting the high bidder a few days ahead of time. Since its not a big card, he may not be checking often. I have lost cards by 12 cents before that if i was of bid earlier i would of been a dollar more so it goes both ways.

Obviously this all assumes there are no other bids until end of the auction. The point is there are more things going on than shilling when you see many small bids..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

No i do have an intention of overtaking it but dont want to alert him that he was outbid......works well on low value cards like 10 dollars....i wait till the end to put in my bid and assuming the high bidder doesnt have a snipe, maybe i win the card easier versus alerting the bidder earlier that he was outbid. The 1 dollar can make a difference... If doing my early bids i can see he is already well beyond what i would be willing to bid i dont bother checking out the end of that auction. How many times in other AHs do you bid again when you get an email that you were 'outbid' but if you didnt get that email you dont bid.

When bid increments are $1.00 for example and you can see you are outbid by .02 cents, you know your next bid will be top bidder. Id rather not make that top bid until at the end of the auction instead of alerting the high bidder a few days ahead of time. Since its not a big card, he may not be checking often. I have lost cards by 12 cents before that if i was of bid earlier i would of been a dollar more so it goes both ways.

Obviously this all assumes there are no other bids until end of the auction. The point is there are more things going on than shilling when you see many small bids..

Huh? If I want to win a card, I figure out what I want to pay, put in a snipe, and forget about it. If I really want it and it looks like it's going higher by the end of the auction, I might adjust the snipe. Bidding it up as I go along to try to figure out where the high bidder is? Makes no sense. For one thing, it well could backfire by making the high bidder, and other bidders, realize someone else is hot and heavy for the card and may make them go higher. You're overthinking this.

[ls7plus]

I'm right in line with that bidding strategy.

Hi, Pete.

Best,

Larry

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Huh? If I want to win a card, I figure out what I want to pay, put in a snipe, and forget about it. If I really want it and it looks like it's going higher by the end of the auction, I might adjust the snipe. Bidding it up as I go along to try to figure out where the high bidder is? Makes no sense. For one thing, it well could backfire by making the high bidder, and other bidders, realize someone else is hot and heavy for the card and may make them go higher. You're overthinking this.

i dont use snipe software, my strategy may be not what you do but to each their own. If it backfires it backfires. You are the one overthinking this

[felada]

Didn't they make a big deal a few months ago about new policies they were going to implement and prohibiting string bidding was one of them?