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Old 02-22-2017, 11:31 PM
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I got an email a day or two ago from SGC indicating their new grading fee schedule. I forget when it goes into effect

I wish I kept it, but I didn't. The increases are astronomical. Currently, any card valued over $25K is $850.

Now the highest tier is any card over $100K is $3,750.00. Yikes!!!

There was a few tiers between $25K and $100K, but the fees were over $1,000 for each tier.

Does anyone still have the email to post the prices?

Thanks,
Tony

Looked at the fee schedule and wish I had some $25,000.00 cards. For the average collector, price changes will have little or no effect on things.

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Old 02-23-2017, 12:30 AM
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I wonder if they do this with the $25,000 cards.
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Curious with the SGC adopting the PSA club pricing model and increased rates if Beckett has changed their model at all?

I know there's the never-ending debate on PSA vs. SGC - likes, dislikes, values, consistency, etc - but I rarely hear/see BVG thrown in? I know, I know, BVG resale values pale in comparison (especially to PSA), but I always wondered why? Aside from not liking the bullet-proof holders, I never understood why they are a distant 3rd option and/or garner so much less on resale? The cards that I have seen them grade seem to be fairly consistent - at least as much as PSA and SGC, if not even better. Everyone here has some horror story over PSA grading a creased or paper-loss card (especially prewar) as 4, 5 or better. And those damn qualifiers - inconsistency - one card with worse centering has no qualifier vs. another of the same card which does. I've also heard the common perception that PSA grades bigger spenders less stringently. True or not, if that perception is common place .. and if consistency is very much in question, why then doesn't that chip-away at the perceived value? Isn't that a core reason for why BVG grading is less in-demand/less resale value?

I really not a fan (or hater) of any of them - just curious how/why BVG fell to the 3rd string depths.

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Ed - they have no registry. So you can't tell everybody how great your collection is. Hence, they are a distant third.
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I think BVG is so far behind because their vintage never crosses over at the same grade. It's usually 1 or sometimes even 2 grades higher than it should be. They also let more trimmed/altered cards slip by. I currently own a pre-war BVG slab with a numerical grade that very obviously measures short.

Their BGS brand for modern cards, on the other hand, seems to be a high quality product and sells even better than PSA.

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Curious with the SGC adopting the PSA club pricing model and increased rates if Beckett has changed their model at all?

I know there's the never-ending debate on PSA vs. SGC - likes, dislikes, values, consistency, etc - but I rarely hear/see BVG thrown in? I know, I know, BVG resale values pale in comparison (especially to PSA), but I always wondered why? Aside from not liking the bullet-proof holders, I never understood why they are a distant 3rd option and/or garner so much less on resale? The cards that I have seen them grade seem to be fairly consistent - at least as much as PSA and SGC, if not even better. Everyone here has some horror story over PSA grading a creased or paper-loss card (especially prewar) as 4, 5 or better. And those damn qualifiers - inconsistency - one card with worse centering has no qualifier vs. another of the same card which does. I've also heard the common perception that PSA grades bigger spenders less stringently. True or not, if that perception is common place .. and if consistency is very much in question, why then doesn't that chip-away at the perceived value? Isn't that a core reason for why BVG grading is less in-demand/less resale value?

I really not a fan (or hater) of any of them - just curious how/why BVG fell to the 3rd string depths.

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I have only directly submitted to SGC and they charge your CC as soon as they receive your cards. I personally think that is BS and they should wait till they are done with your order and they are mailing it back so they have actually earned the $.

How do the other companies do payments?
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I would like to clarify a couple of things from my post. First of all, I was referring to the submission of raw T206 cards. If SGC's fees are now considerably higher than PSA's, why would you submit to SGC? That defeats the purpose of why you would be using SGC in the first place, doesn't it? Secondly, most of my T206s are high end grade wise. There is a much higher price difference between PSA and SGC with those types of grades (7's and higher), versus middle to lower grades (1's-6's), where the price difference is not that terribly different at all. I realize that most T206 collectors fall into the later, so I thought this was important to note....

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I have only directly submitted to SGC and they charge your CC as soon as they receive your cards. I personally think that is BS and they should wait till they are done with your order and they are mailing it back so they have actually earned the $.

How do the other companies do payments?
I know for sure SGC and Beckett charge as soon as the order is received. I imagine PSA does the same.
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