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Lots of trash been thrown around...so who DID work on it?!?!
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Unless the card was worked on by the person who submitted it to psa what the difference?
I want to here more about Pwcc disciples and organized shilling ! That's the meat a potatos of this conversation. The rabbit goes deeper then one joe DiMaggio it appears. If this is true then more then a few people have been legitimately ripped off. Especially if the other auction houses know what is going on and psa is just slabbing what ever with a higher grade for bigger customers.
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I have read back and I don't see any details on the disciples and organized shilling. Just that you said it was going on . I see this topic has made its way to Blowout already to .
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There have been a lot of cards that were glued to collector album then removed.
Gonewiththestain.com shows a bunch of 1952 topps for example that were glued that they 'fixed'. If got the card graded before it was doctored, it would be an' A' after buying the A at a low price and doctoring it, it could be a psa 5. I have never seen an auction house ever say that any card was glued to a photo album and then 'something happened' to the card and now its a PSA 5. If you found out that your PSA 5 card came from a card that was glued to a collector album do you get your money back. Is the card truly a PSA 5? I would argue that it is a PSA 5 and you were not scammed..... If the seller disclosed this, they probably get less for the card, but if they dont disclose it, they get more for the card but later people may find out about it and the seller may lose value in the market when trying to sell other things...who knows... Noone knows exactly what the methods of how the card was changed to get into a PSA 7 was. There seems to be a big disagreement about what method is wrong and what methods would be deemed more acceptable. i just think we are missing a big piece of the puzzle.... |
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Board Members,
Here are a few comments on some of the points made by participants of this post:
Betsy Huigens Last edited by Brent Huigens; 02-16-2017 at 06:26 PM. |
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Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 02-16-2017 at 06:31 PM. |
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Judging by Ms. Huigen's first point, it looks like Brent's defense is going to be that he sent the card to psa on behalf of a consigner. He will say the consigner bought the card as an SGC 4, had it doctored, gave it to Brent to send to psa (he gets the grade bumps), and had Brent sell it to Cortney for 75k. That is what I glean from that post. Maybe I am off.
Cortney, I think you got screwed here buddy, but you really didn't do any due diligence before buying a 75k card. When I buy my pathetic 4-figure cards I always look at past sales. I would have immediately noticed that the marks on the 4 match the marks on the card Brent was trying to pawn off on me. This is a low-pop card, so there aren't that many past sales to look through. Those marks are visible from a mile away. Or perhaps you did realize it too late and that was the reason you decided to consign it when you did. Because I can't imagine you thought you were gonna get more than the 75k you put into it. Last edited by orly57; 02-16-2017 at 06:48 PM. |
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So, now Betsy, they get screenshots regarding your husband asking me via text just a few short weeks ago to shill bid.......been waiting all day for this one. ;-) thank you for FINALLY OBLIGING me.
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Me tring to pay this "very large unpaid debt" up to over a week ago that he refuses to invoice me on. Wpuld yall like to see a screenshot of the 250k wite Id sent him the month prior.
Bring it on Betsy. Ive got plenty more |
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Post #412's screen capture pretty much demonstrates there is no truth to this policy of PWCC's:
Auction Integrity No Shill The integrity of bidding on our auctions is our highest priority. The sportscard hobby hinges on the honesty and integrity of the seller, and collectors deserve a bidding environment that is 100% legitimate and uninfluenced by manipulation such as fraudulent bidding by the auction house, consignors, friends of consignors, friends of the auction house, or anyone else who participates insincerely with the sole intention of manipulating the sale price. I know this thread is about the WWG Joe D but that text Cortney posted is incredibly damaging to Brent...think someone posted the other day in support of Brent, stating to keep doing what he is doing. Post may have been a bit premature. |
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Cortney, how many eBay IDs do you have and why? If eBay allows one seller account and one buyer account then fine. I do not know Ebay rules and I do not sell in eBay.
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Ebay does allow two
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Can you please provide the link?
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