When is a T206 OLD MILL tougher than a red HINDU ? Let's see some tough OLD MILL's

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Luke

I've seen one Merkle Old Mill portrait. It was raw and would have graded a 1 if anyone ever sent it in. No scan unfortunately but I was the under-bidder and am still sad about it.

Well, I guess this settles it. I'll have to keep looking.

It's funny, I thought the throwing pose was the tough run, not the portrait.

[iwantitiwinit]

You are not kidding about the difficulty of some Old Mill's. When I started my Magee portrait back run I didn't realize there was only one known per the sgc and psa population reports. Was lucky enough to purchase it here's the link, http://goodwinandco.com/1909_11_Old_...-LOT34938.aspx

[tedzan]

Hi Robert

Quite a number of the Portrait cards in the 150/350 series are very tough to find with the OLD MILL backs.

My theory as to why this is so, is based on two factors......
1..American Lithographic printed many of the portraits in the in the early stages of the 150 and 350 series cards (circa 1909 - mid 1910).
2..The OLD MILL backs were printed from mid 1910 to late 1910. So, left over pre-printed sheets comprising of the early 150 series guys
Kling, Lajoie, Magee, Merkle, Tenney, etc., etc. were very few.

The greatest concentration of OLD MILL cards are found in the 350/460 series, since sheets of these subjects were cranked out during the
mid-1910 to late-1910 time frame.

Incidentally Robert....Bill Goodwin showed me your Magee (at the December Philly Show) and asked me if I had seen one before. I'm glad
for you that you won this card.


TED Z
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[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Robert

Quite a number of the Portrait cards in the 150/350 series are very tough to find with the OLD MILL backs.

My theory as to why this is so, is based on two factors......
1..American Lithographic printed many of the portraits in the in the early stages of the 150 and 350 series cards (circa 1909 - mid 1910).
2..The OLD MILL backs were printed from mid 1910 to late 1910. So, left over pre-printed sheets comprising of the early 150 series guys
Kling, Lajoie, Magee, Merkle, Tenney, etc., etc. were very few.

The greatest concentration of OLD MILL cards are found in the 350/460 series, since sheets of these subjects were cranked out during the
mid-1910 to late-1910 time frame.

Incidentally Robert....Bill Goodwin showed me your Magee (at the December Philly Show) and asked me if I had seen one before. I'm glad
for you that you won this card.


TED Z
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Thanks Ted.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

You are not kidding about the difficulty of some Old Mill's. When I started my Magee portrait back run I didn't realize there was only one known per the sgc and psa population reports. Was lucky enough to purchase it here's the link, http://goodwinandco.com/1909_11_Old_...-LOT34938.aspx

Wow, I can't believe that price for an Old Mill.

Now I understand why. If a Merkle ever does show up, I doubt that I can afford it.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Sean

Wow, I can't believe that price for an Old Mill.

Now I understand why. If a Merkle ever does show up, I doubt that I can afford it.

The Magee was a bargain compared to this Cicotte.

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.as...entoryid=28377

[kdixon]

Zach Wheat Old Mill.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The Magee was a bargain compared to this Cicotte.

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.as...entoryid=28377

Holy crap. I'm guessing David Hall ended up with that one.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The Magee was a bargain compared to this Cicotte.

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.as...entoryid=28377

Except for the fact, that the price on that listing is not for the card shown.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

Except for the fact, that the price on that listing is not for the card shown.

I'm not sure what you're seeing but that is what the Cicotte sold for.

There was even a thread on here about it after the auction ended.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=cicotte

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I'm not sure what you're seeing but that is what the Cicotte sold for.

There was even a thread on here about it after the auction ended.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=cicotte

Hmm. Their historical pricing was always not accurate I thought. Maybe they fixed the issue.

[tedzan]

Here are the two favorite OLD MILL's in my collection.

The Hal Chase is my very first T206......which I acquired at the Willow Grove Show in 1981.







Both of these subjects were printed in the 350/460 series; and, OLD MILL's are fairly easy to find.
Also, most of the subjects in the 460-only series (except for the Exclusive 12) are fairly easy to
find with OLD MILL backs.


TED Z
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Sean

Hi Ted. What ever happened to your all-Sovereign set?

Sean

It is in an album in my bookcase alongside my all-PIEDMONT set, all-SWEET CAPORAL (Factory#30) set and AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 subset. Started
this SOVEREIGN set in Nov 2006, and completed it in Nov 2007. It was truly a "labor of love". When I attained 402 subjects with SOVEREIGN backs,
I was pretty confident that it was completed. The real challenge was to figure out what T206 cards were SOVEREIGN "NO PRINTS". Time has proven
that my research was precise.

Imagine flipping thru mylar pages in an album and seeing a sea of varying shades of GREEN......







Furthermore, I'm still adding SOVEREIGN 350 cards (from the 150/350 series) to the set which will ultimately result in a Master set of approx. 476 cards.

Shown here are the rare SOVEREIGN 460 cards of the six super prints.

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TED Z
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[TistaT202]

Here is my Pink Chase OM. I love these threads as I did not understand the difficulty of this card or other OM's.

Mike