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Old 02-10-2017, 10:35 AM
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Thanks for the heads up Cliff. Was looking at those earlier this morning.
Thanks for saving me the headache! I had my eye on them as well!
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Those graded 72 Venezuelans sure sold for a lot. I hope for the buyers' sake that they are real.
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Those graded 72 Venezuelans sure sold for a lot. I hope for the buyers' sake that they are real.
Not a single one of them is authentic. Someone in Venezuela made forgeries within the past ten years of the star players and also surprisingly of many of the commons. They are all found with no glue residue on the back, the blank backs are a brilliant white, the green on the front is much darker, the photos are blurry, and the most obvious thing is that the fonts of the letters are completely different when compared side by side. Authentic ones are always found with glue residue on the back from being in a booklet, are yellowing from being forty five years old, have a much lighter green color, have sharper photos, and have a much thinner font of letters. I am guessing that the people that paid the outrageous prices for the Rose, Garvey, Brooks, Gibson, Ryan, and the Yaz wanted them for their registry set because they were graded by PSA. I only collect the Cubs in the set so I only got burned about $200 by originally buying the fake ones. I have nearly replaced them all with authentic ones.

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Here are a couple of examples to show the differences. The Cubs are easy to tell because the "R's" in CACHORROS are thin and don't match the other letters and really stand out on an authentic card, the "R's" are normal on the fake cards and blend right in. The most obvious evidence is the font on the Santo name, completely different.
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The Killebrew also has striking differences. Compare the 7 in 171 and the font on his name between the authentic card on the left and the fake card on the right, completely different.
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PSA says they are authentic, and therefore it is so! I was shocked at the price the Garvey went for. I don't recognize the buyer's feedback score, so not a regular rare Garvey item bidder. It was well above any prices I have ever seen for one, but all the others were raw and likely the same "fakes".

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