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Old 02-05-2017, 02:43 AM
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The A/H, to this day, has not corrected the original sold price.
I know very little about the big house crash in the U.S., other than to say I heard about it, but did houses not sell, money exchanged hands, and did the people/new owners not move in before it crashed?
Well, lets remember when you a buy a house without your funds and use a mortgage you really didnt use your money, plus you never really 'owned' the house, the bank did. Banks had no reason to lend 250k to people with no income but they did anyway and the people with no income had no ability to afford the loan unless they flipped the house or they got a second and third mortgage to pay off the first mortgage which they were able to get from a rising housing market (due to other banks giving money to other new homeowner buyers with no ability to pay) Thus money did exchange hands, but not the homeowners money but a banks money which ultimately led to many banks going out of business.

Thus moving in doesnt mean anything as they didnt own the house but again the sale price was registered in the market. On ebay past sales are shown all the time even when payment is not received.

Saying an item is 'sold' doesnt mean money exchanged hands, it means a legal obligation was there to pay for it.
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The single worst, and possibly most inaccurate, description of the housing crash i have ever laid eyes on
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:12 AM
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The single worst, and possibly most inaccurate, description of the housing crash i have ever laid eyes on
Like I mentioned, I only heard of it so I have no idea if, Jake's story is fact or fiction, but I do know, like I mentioned before, I am not sure how this whole housing collapse thing can be used as an comparison to whether a card was paid for or not?

I think I am wise just to let my questions about this $80,000 dollar Koufax die.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:04 AM
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The single worst, and possibly most inaccurate, description of the housing crash i have ever laid eyes on
Ok let me know if its inaccurate that people were getting credit to houses they couldnt afford as at least one aspect of the housing market crash. I guess everyone could afford all those houses even though there were thousands of foreclosures within a year or 2 of time. I have been involved in many mortgage modifications and the things you learn there are amazing.

but again, my argument is that you can easily 'sell' something as an auction house and it not be an outright lie if money doesnt change hands.

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Jake, there is so much wrong with your description of the housing market crash, I don't know where to start a critique, however correct your analogy might be, which is getting increasingly more difficult to decipher.

Are you saying "a bubble is a bubble and can burst when we don't know what's actually inflating it"? That I can agree with
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Jake, there is so much wrong with your description of the housing market crash, I don't know where to start a critique, however correct your analogy might be, which is getting increasingly more difficult to decipher.

Are you saying "a bubble is a bubble and can burst when we don't know what's actually inflating it"? That I can agree with
I think its gone a bit too much off topic and as you stated you didnt want to be political (your name does start with Republican)

The point was that I dont agree its an outright lie if an auction house says they 'sold' a card on their website when looking at past listings if money didnt change hands. I used the analogy of the housing market. That is all. Thanks

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