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Old 02-02-2017, 11:28 AM
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When you get them down, I'd really like a photo of the three of them signed and inscribed to me if possible? Thanks!
Piece a cake for a certain bunch of scum bags in Pennsylvania.
I am sure if you wrote to them you would get what you wanted.
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"The one thing I find interesting is that all the place hit were Pawn Shops. I didn't see any actual sports mem dealers. These people are relying on the validity of the certs and not analysis of the sig above a cursory knowledge they might have.
It's the blind faith in certs that helped this criminal succeed for the time he did."

I think they are hitting up pawn shops because of their lack of knowledge about sports memorabilia prices. Any sports memorabilia dealer would see a MASSIVE red flag if somebody walked in offering a PSA certed Ruth ball for $1,000. The assumption would be that it's either fake or stolen. Either way they'd pass.
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[QUOTE=Tradegeek;1626714] These people are relying on the validity of the certs and not analysis of the sig above a cursory knowledge they might have.
It's the blind faith in certs that helped this criminal succeed for the time he did."


As we all know Blind Faith in anything is dangerous , but it is a rampant problem in this hobby and I am afraid it will get worse rather than better. I am not being pessimistic but rather honest IMO about the future of this great hobby. TPAs are creating this problem to a major degree with their unbridled and unlimited power and the unfounded belief by the collecting public that any autograph without their approval, tacit or otherwise , is an unmitigated forgery.
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Remember that at these companies there is not just one authentactor. So the same auto may be looked at by two people at the same company with two different opinions. These services are only an opinion. Unless you personally witnessed the signature and got a DNA sample to ensure it was a double and hopefully he doesn't have a twin.
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or like me twice I submitted an autograph to JSA same autograph and the same person looked at it 2 months apart- 1st time rejected 2nd time accepted- same authenticator same item. Once a vintage player once a modern one. So can't even agree with himself
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JSA is the company I took a low-end auto'd baseball to at a National once. The approximately 22-year old I handed the ball to look at it, puzzled, for a few minutes. I said "It's Gene Conley." He said "Oh," walked to a binder, wrote some stuff down, put a hologram on it, and handed it back to me.
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JSA is the company I took a low-end auto'd baseball to at a National once. The approximately 22-year old I handed the ball to look at it, puzzled, for a few minutes. I said "It's Gene Conley." He said "Oh," walked to a binder, wrote some stuff down, put a hologram on it, and handed it back to me.

Funny,,,
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JSA is the company I took a low-end auto'd baseball to at a National once. The approximately 22-year old I handed the ball to look at it, puzzled, for a few minutes. I said "It's Gene Conley." He said "Oh," walked to a binder, wrote some stuff down, put a hologram on it, and handed it back to me.
Thank goodness you didn't take the kid a Cap Anson. He probably would've messed his pants and had to have called home.
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or like me twice I submitted an autograph to JSA same autograph and the same person looked at it 2 months apart- 1st time rejected 2nd time accepted- same authenticator same item. Once a vintage player once a modern one. So can't even agree with himself
Michael,
I think you caught them on "schizophrenics day." Best not to do that.
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Rich- you think they'd be smart enough to keep scans of the ones they reject so they can be consistent with themselves. If they change their mind every two months what does that say about their company as to trustworthiness. When guys like you and Jim retire and most of us that have been collecting for decades either sell out or pass the collections down to unknowing relatives, I pity the hobby as there just aren't enough in the under 50 crowd that know enough and the TPA's will be even more of a disgrace. For awhile one company was slabbing wife signed Fabers and rejecting good ones, etc
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