Is JSA a trustworty company

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I sincerely doubt that.
Just sayin',

+1 Richard, I have tried to sign Ruth Cobb and Mantle for my own entertainment my whole life and cant even come close...lol, not sure 2 weeks is gonna get it...

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by w7imel

+1 Richard, I have tried to sign Ruth Cobb and Mantle for my own entertainment my whole life and cant even come close...lol, not sure 2 weeks is gonna get it...

When you get them down, I'd really like a photo of the three of them signed and inscribed to me if possible? Thanks!

[Snapolit1]

Ruth's entire signature is, obviously enough, 8 letters. From a pure forensic point of view, is a remarkably easy signature to fake. Second maybe to Ed Ott. And a lot easier than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Besides pure fakes, I am also sure for most HOFs there are so many secreterial signatures that by now the vast majority of them have just blended into the mix.

I'll amend my initial comment, which was a little exaggerated. I would never by a single signed ball or card by Ruth or anyone else. I would consider something like a check or official contract of some kind, or maybe something with multiple signatures that can be evaluated. Or something with iron clad provenance. A single signed Ruth ball or photo? Not a chance.

[prewarsports]

Rhodes scholar... Love it!

I am always saying that to my kids when they are hanging out with shady looking kids at school. "Who's the Rhodes Scholar you are hanging out with over there" etc.

Put a smile on my face.

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Ruth's entire signature is, obviously enough, 8 letters. From a pure forensic point of view, is a remarkably easy signature to fake. Second maybe to Ed Ott. And a lot easier than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Besides pure fakes, I am also sure for most HOFs there are so many secreterial signatures that by now the vast majority of them have just blended into the mix.

I'll amend my initial comment, which was a little exaggerated. I would never by a single signed ball or card by Ruth or anyone else. I would consider something like a check or official contract of some kind, or maybe something with multiple signatures that can be evaluated. Or something with iron clad provenance. A single signed Ruth ball or photo? Not a chance.

I have a Ruth check that im very happy with!! And while his signature looks easy to duplicate its the flow and pressuere point that make it a hard one.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

When you get them down, I'd really like a photo of the three of them signed and inscribed to me if possible? Thanks!

Piece a cake for a certain bunch of scum bags in Pennsylvania.
I am sure if you wrote to them you would get what you wanted.

[Tradegeek]

"The one thing I find interesting is that all the place hit were Pawn Shops. I didn't see any actual sports mem dealers. These people are relying on the validity of the certs and not analysis of the sig above a cursory knowledge they might have.
It's the blind faith in certs that helped this criminal succeed for the time he did."

I think they are hitting up pawn shops because of their lack of knowledge about sports memorabilia prices. Any sports memorabilia dealer would see a MASSIVE red flag if somebody walked in offering a PSA certed Ruth ball for $1,000. The assumption would be that it's either fake or stolen. Either way they'd pass.

[Klrdds]

[QUOTE=Tradegeek;1626714] These people are relying on the validity of the certs and not analysis of the sig above a cursory knowledge they might have.
It's the blind faith in certs that helped this criminal succeed for the time he did."


As we all know Blind Faith in anything is dangerous , but it is a rampant problem in this hobby and I am afraid it will get worse rather than better. I am not being pessimistic but rather honest IMO about the future of this great hobby. TPAs are creating this problem to a major degree with their unbridled and unlimited power and the unfounded belief by the collecting public that any autograph without their approval, tacit or otherwise , is an unmitigated forgery.

[rednecksims]

Remember that at these companies there is not just one authentactor. So the same auto may be looked at by two people at the same company with two different opinions. These services are only an opinion. Unless you personally witnessed the signature and got a DNA sample to ensure it was a double and hopefully he doesn't have a twin.

[theshleps]

or like me twice I submitted an autograph to JSA same autograph and the same person looked at it 2 months apart- 1st time rejected 2nd time accepted- same authenticator same item. Once a vintage player once a modern one. So can't even agree with himself