Do sellers really not know when it's a facsimile signed ball?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Santa comes on the 25th, which explains the disappointment and skepticism in your house

I'm always waiting up on the 24th for him to come down the chimney and drop off a FAKE Facsimile ball like the obvious one here and I'm always disappointed. Will have to try that 25th thing>>>

[vintagesportscollector]

I'm Jewish, but doesn't Santa come "the night before Christmas", on the 24th?

[Fballguy]

That guy's playing dumb intentionally. He knows it's not real but wants plausible deniability. The telltale signs are all there...low feedback rating, no returns, the offer of "ask any questions" putting the onus on the buyer, never calling it authentic and then setting the price high enough that the average, honest schmo will come along and think it's the real deal.

And the guy would win any battle with the seller because he never misrepresented the ball in his description.

[RichardSimon]

He uses the words signed (2x) and signatures.
I would think those words would be enough to make any buyer a winner in a dispute.

[Fballguy]

It is a signed ball...It has signatures on it. They're fake signatures but it is a signed ball.

[drcy]

When you sell something it is implied that you are saying it is authentic as to how you describe it. Offering a "Babe Ruth signed baseball" then saying "I never said it was an authentic signature," or offering a "diamond ring" then saying "I didn't say it was a real diamond" doesn't work. That's would be as legitimate a legal defense as saying you can't be held liable for the deceptive description because you had your fingers crossed behind you back when you composed it. He says signed and signatures, end of story. A stamp isn't a signature, and stamped isn't signed.

[RichardSimon]

The price kept dropping on this ball and the ball has sold for $25.

[cardsnstuff]

I like how Rudolph signed on the stitching too.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I'm always waiting up on the 24th for him to come down the chimney and drop off a FAKE Facsimile ball like the obvious one here and I'm always disappointed. Will have to try that 25th thing>>>

wouldn't a FAKE facsimile be authentic?

[MacDice]

Yes the seller should be able to tell they are preprinted but so should the buyer

[RichardSimon]

I have told this story before but it bears repeating.
A guy calls me up and says he has a Yankee ball with Munson. He wants to bring it to me.
I meet him in my lobby. He brought his two sons with him.
He pulls out a facsimile ball. I tell him what it is.
Now he is screaming at me, in front of his two sons, saying he himself got this ball signed in the clubhouse and that I am definitely wrong.
I tell him that maybe he did get a ball signed but not this one.
(I am very glad I did not let him in my apartment).
Some people are just born liars.