New ebay forgers angle , still forgeries but fly under the radar

[khw]

it always comes back to somebody saying i can show you a link to a article where ...fill in the blank... has shown some third party has made a mistake... this is to show that really it was honest that they dont know what they are doing or to use as a cover for getting caught doing it. not my first rodeo. except this one came with all american resume, , sooo the cats out of the bag , seller has 80% of the items listed that are bad, and 80% of the items sold are bad , off the top paige mack and combs as hofers over 100-200 are at the top bad. so now that the whole operation has been outed . whatcha do? this is a simple deal, first thing if you arent going to remove all of them , you would have been better off never responding on here , just let it drift down the page and not list anymore hofers over 20.00 .that goes also on resume as dumb move. i buy so many autographs and collections , have for years , and if you have been doing it for 40 years , it would be impossible not to know this many were bad, the same pattern goes all the way back to fake bob moose and mike miley in october and the real duke snider sold the same time. just not possible of a scenario for this to play out as a victim .should have left off paige , got too greedy

[khw]

ohh an you really want the kicker , the tell tell sign look at the bidders on the items

private listing - bidders' identities protected

all items sold

[jimjim]

Not to hijack the thread… But Kirk why do you never respond to questions on eBay? I send you questions about items all the time and never get a response. Just wondering.

[khw]

Originally Posted by jimjim

Not to hijack the thread… But Kirk why do you never respond to questions on eBay? I send you questions about items all the time and never get a response. Just wondering.

did you ask it here or through ebay? i got maybe 21000 on ebay get alot of questions , alot of emails . and alot of questions that just go nowhere , so it is best to send me a direct email unless it is one of the qustion like a guy who emailed this christmas and asked for a scan of the back of the psa/dna cert card, i have stopped for the most part answering those

[dgo71]

Adam-
First I think you deserve credit for coming on here and not hiding away from the accusations. That said, to say that most everyone sells a fake autograph here and there is not quite an accurate statement. There's a difference between someone taking the time to thoroughly vette an autograph before selling it and making the occasional mistake, and not taking the time at all and writing it off as the cost of doing business. Just my opinion, but it doesn't seem like a viable business model to not perform your due diligence when offering signatures into the market, particularly on ebay where it's fairly common knowledge that the customer base lacks the knowledge and experience of say, the members on this site. Again, you sound like a good enough guy who isn't maliciously trying to defraud people, but I think you have a responsibility to be more proactive in ensuring the items you're offering are good. Or at the very least stating clearly that some doubt could exist, as suggested above.

[Duluth Eskimo]

This guy does not deserve credit for coming on here. Obvious forgeries. Those that make honest mistakes might have a bad one or two in the bunch, but I have NEVER seen forgeries of some of the stuff he is trying to get away with. Secretarials and sisters' signatures are one thing, but numerous outright forgeries is another. I will even give a strictly card guy a pass when they make a mistake, but not someone who claims knowledge of autographs and collecting autographs. Bottom line sir, you are a liar. Go away.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by khw

ohh an you really want the kicker , the tell tell sign look at the bidders on the items

private listing - bidders' identities protected

all items sold

+1

I hate that Ebay allows "Private Listing/Bidders Identities Protected."

While he's selling forgeries, he's purchasing authentic autographs from Jim Stinson.

Check his "Feedback As A Buyer."

Back in the day, when I was exposing a ton of sellers on Ebay for selling forgeries, I observed 25% of them were using the funds from their sales of forgeries to purchase authentic autographs from UDA, Steiner Sports, etc.

[khw]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

+1

I hate that Ebay allows "Private Listing/Bidders Identities Protected."

While he's selling forgeries, he's purchasing authentic autographs from Jim Stinson.

Check his "Feedback As A Buyer."

Back in the day, when I was exposing a ton for sellers on Ebay for selling forgeries, I observed 25% of them were using the funds from their sales of forgeries to purchase authentic autographs from UDA, Steiner Sports, etc.

i did notice on the guy like hank bauer which is worth about .10 more than nothing it didnt have a private auction. and yes you are correct because now you cant see the whole user id anyway , but...on the flip side the private auction is good because if a seller is using it , stay away , you know what they are up to, and dont bid on their items

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

+1

I hate that Ebay allows "Private Listing/Bidders Identities Protected."

While he's selling forgeries, he's purchasing authentic autographs from Jim Stinson.

Check his "Feedback As A Buyer."

Back in the day, when I was exposing a ton for sellers on Ebay for selling forgeries, I observed 25% of them were using the funds from their sales of forgeries to purchase authentic autographs from UDA, Steiner Sports, etc.

a common trick that Tony "Don't call me Jorge" Podsada used to do. Sell his trash and buy PSA certed Mantles. LOL.

The seller is stuck with all his trash and where else but e-bay is the place to go with all your trash. I respect the man for telling his story here. Truth is, he should just take that garbage off period, smash that SH** with a bat in a trash can and move on. AND STOP SELLING PLAIN AND OUTRIGHT EASY TO SPOT FORGERIES. That would be ultimate respect

[NJDeepthroat]

I can tell you a lot about Tony. I used to work fro him in NJ from 1989-1990. When Billy Martin died this guy got 500 Martin autographs like it was nothing??? He then did a run of 1000 Ali autos. One thing that was always strange is that the autographs looked the same throughout the run. People do not sign in such a consistent way.

I went with him and met Ken Goldin and his late father Paul at Scoreboard in Cherry Hill. Scoreboard seemed on the level to me as they had select autos and when they got Pete Rose via Mike Bertolini whom I met it was legitimate.

I don't have proof that MFP sold forgeries but when it is too good to be true this is usually the case.

I will say this that Tony had a mouth piece and knew how to use it but I would imagine that most of what he sold including the Mattingly auto balls he gave as presents were fake based on my experience.

Art S@rgi

[mr2686]

Thought I'd throw my .02 in on the subject. First, I have purchased 3 autographs from Adam over the years (it's been several years since the last one), and all three were without question (in my mind and under magnification) to be authentic (of course, all three sigs I was VERY familiar with). Adam always had a good reputation and stood behind his autographs.
With that said, and after reading this thread, I just threw-up in my mouth a bit. Sorry Adam, but you can't keep your good reputation, and also stick your head in the sand. Yes, there are tons of fakes out there, but you should not be selling autographs that you haven't "taken enough time" to look at. Believe me, if the autographs in question are THAT easy to spot, then you either didn't look at all, your expertise is not what you think it is, or you knowingly passed them along...and I'd like to believe it's one of the first two rather than the last (although all are disturbing).