Vintage Grading - "Excellent"

[irv]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Cards like this are why I argue it could go either way. The corners are not markedly better than on my Clemente, and the centering is way worse. Who knows...




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Don't forget your, Berra is an older graded card. The newer graded cards use a hologram and the grading standard is much tougher.
I'd say that Berra and your Clemente would be a 3-4 at best,,,,,,, but funnier things happen from time to time.

This Kuzava only graded a 3. The front is ex/mt imo, but the back does have some slight spider lines to the right.

[ls7plus]

PSA certainly has gotten tougher recently. IMHO, unreasonably so for vintage cards. SGC is the fairer, more reasonable of the two.

Regards, Larryh

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

PSA certainly has gotten tougher recently. IMHO, unreasonably so for vintage cards. SGC is the fairer, more reasonable of the two.

Regards, Larryh

I agree, PSA has gotten tougher in the past few years. I am building a 52 set at an overall PSA 5 level....the more recently graded cards do appear to be more stringently graded than cards graded 5 or even 10+ years ago. Some of my older graded 5s have light creases and more corner wear than some of the newer graded, crease free 4s that I have for the set. I even have a 5 (an older graded one) that has surface wear on the front???

Like John mentioned, my peeve is when I receive an EX card and there is any type of creasing. I have seen some 5s with faint wrinkles on the back, but IMO, those should be 4.5s, not 5s.

The subjectivity in regards to corner wear does vary greatly from one person to the next. For me, on any card, corner wear is more of a peeve than centering or even (light) creasing. Some people's EX corner wear is my VG corner wear, while other's EX corner wear is my EX-MT. Unfortunately for me, there are far fewer encounters with the latter and more than I would like with the former. However, the majority of card people I deal with, their corner wear is generally consistent with mine....VERY MINOR rounding on the corners is consistent with an EX card.