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Old 01-11-2017, 09:55 AM
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They voted NO on Jimmie Foxx 7 times before he finally got in. He's one of the greatest right handed hitters of all time. By that criteria he doesn't deserve induction.

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Old 01-11-2017, 10:03 AM
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I found this to be a very good article regarding active pitchers and their chances for the Hall.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/activ...-shot-at-hall/

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Old 01-11-2017, 10:34 AM
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Pretty interesting stuff. Looking at the modern pitchers chart, I really only feel like Felix is a HOFer. I don't think CC or Verlander are better than he is even if they rank higher, and I don't think either of them are HOFers.
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If I had a ballot, it would look like this:

1. Jeff Bagwell

2. Tim Raines

3. Trevor Hoffman

4. Edgar Martinez

5. Curt Schilling

6. Mike Mussina

7. Vladimir Guerrero

8. Billy Wagner

9. Jeff Kent

10. Larry Walker

Honorable mention goes to Fred McGriff, whom I'd have to leave off due to the rule of 10.

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If I had a ballot, it would look like this:

1. Jeff Bagwell

2. Tim Raines

3. Trevor Hoffman

4. Edgar Martinez

5. Curt Schilling

6. Mike Mussina

7. Vladimir Guerrero

8. Billy Wagner

9. Jeff Kent

10. Larry Walker

Honorable mention goes to Fred McGriff, whom I'd have to leave off due to the rule of 10.
Here is mine. I know this would mean Tim Raines would roll off, but I don't believe he had a better career than any of these players when compared to their contemporaries.
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Jeff Bagwell
Curt Schilling
Ivan Rodriguez
Mike Mussina
Sammy Sosa
Larry Walker
Edgar Martinez
Manny Ramirez
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Here is mine. I know this would mean Tim Raines would roll off, but I don't believe he had a better career than any of these players when compared to their contemporaries.
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Jeff Bagwell
Curt Schilling
Ivan Rodriguez
Mike Mussina
Sammy Sosa
Larry Walker
Edgar Martinez
Manny Ramirez
At least you're consistent. It depends how you feel about users. Let all of them in or none of them in. I prefer the latter. Some of your players either got busted or have been suspected. Hence why I left Pudge off.

If you take away home runs, I would put Raines over Sosa, as homers were the only distinct advantage the latter had.

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At least you're consistent. It depends how you feel about users. Let all of them in or none of them in. I prefer the latter. Some of your players either got busted or have been suspected. Hence why I left Pudge off.

If you take away home runs, I would put Raines over Sosa, as homers were the only distinct advantage the latter had.
I really don't worry about the PED stuff. If they want to come up with a rule banning them officially than, fine, that would change my vote. As it stands, though, there is too much ambiguity to deciding who is guilty and who wasn't. Also since mine is just for fun and there is no actual weight to it I can do what I want without defending it too much. haha.

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If I had a ballot, it would look like this:

1. Jeff Bagwell

2. Tim Raines

3. Trevor Hoffman

4. Edgar Martinez

5. Curt Schilling

6. Mike Mussina

7. Vladimir Guerrero

8. Billy Wagner

9. Jeff Kent

10. Larry Walker

Honorable mention goes to Fred McGriff, whom I'd have to leave off due to the rule of 10.
swap out Vlad and Wagner for Bonds and Clemens and that would be my ballot. (tho I think both wagner and vlad get in, but we are limited to ten)
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Pretty interesting stuff. Looking at the modern pitchers chart, I really only feel like Felix is a HOFer. I don't think CC or Verlander are better than he is even if they rank higher, and I don't think either of them are HOFers.
Um Kershaw???
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Um Kershaw???

He is not eligible for the HOF until after he plays this season.
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They voted NO on Jimmie Foxx 7 times before he finally got in. He's one of the greatest right handed hitters of all time. By that criteria he doesn't deserve induction.
They didn't vote NO, he just didn't get the 75% vote. To many choices.
With the stats that Foxx put up he should have been in on his first year of eligibility, not year seven. Which is my point, his stats didn't change in those seven years.
The unfortunate thing with the early years of the HOF there were 100 player on the ballot. Years when not even 1 player made the the hall with several players very deserving. Look at the list from 1950, not 1 player voted in and yet there were a lot of HOF's on the ballot.
If a criteria is set a player is either in or is not on. No vote. No popularity contest.
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