Opinions on Gil hodges game used glove

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

I get offended when you say I do this all the time.

I have made over 300 purchases for over 50K this past year and only posted 3-4 things on here for advice.

How about this? Post yours and I won't give you my business I promise. No hard feelings.

Stephen,

You do know that people can search for all of your posts? Since you have joined, many of your posts have been asking for help and advice. I think that you have been called out on this in the past as well?

I don't want to be caught up in your battles, I just think that you should be honest about your involvement on Net54.

Jeff

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

Stephen,

You do know that people can search for all of your posts? Since you have joined, many of your posts have been asking for help and advice. I think that you have been called out on this in the past as well?

I don't want to be caught up in your battles, I just think that you should be honest about your involvement on Net54.

Jeff

I am obviously aware that you can search my posts. Yes I ask for help. What I am saying is that I bought a few baseball cards back in February which were fake and that is documented on here (I believe 3 of them) and then recently got burned with the photos (which I like) and the glove. Oh and that fantasy gehrig piece which I keep on my desk till this day to remind me to research first. I do not understand why some people on here get so uptight about me buying and then asking for opinions. I have done business with a lot of people on here whom I still talk to and text to this day. I guess it may just be an age gap thing as to why some people get so upset on here. I move fast as do a lot of the people who collect in my generation. I act first and ask questions later (as long as I am protected) because honestly I have picked up a few great pieces by doing this... Yes, I'm still sour about that Royals Robinson pin which I posted on here before purchasing that sold for $250 3 minutes after I asked for opinions. Whoever did that on here had no problem doing it so that is their method I guess (lay low and pounce quietly) much like mine is buy first and learn along the way by asking questions after. I have lost no money by doing this and have harmed no one in the process. They people who were selling these items were the deceptive ones not me. You ask about my ebay ID as if I get buyers remorse. What I get is not buyers remorse. I have never bought something "REAL" and then returned it ever. I only return fake items. So as long as you are kosher on ebay you would have no reasons for me returning anything. It's basically a way to keep the scammers from getting over on me. If it's too good to be true it probably is (however I lose nothing if I am protected).

Sorry for the rant, however I just don't understand why I am met with backlash for simply asking opinions on items. I buy them to keep not to resell anyways. It's not like I'm asking you to buy it from me. I would just like opinions to see if it is worth keeping and I would have no problems returning the favor for items I am knowledgeable about.

[felada]

Because you contribute nothing to the board besides
Asking for help for your latest purchase

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

I am obviously aware that you can search my posts. Yes I ask for help. What I am saying is that I bought a few baseball cards back in February which were fake and that is documented on here (I believe 3 of them) and then recently got burned with the photos (which I like) and the glove. Oh and that fantasy gehrig piece which I keep on my desk till this day to remind me to research first. I do not understand why some people on here get so uptight about me buying and then asking for opinions. I have done business with a lot of people on here whom I still talk to and text to this day. I guess it may just be an age gap thing as to why some people get so upset on here. I move fast as do a lot of the people who collect in my generation. I act first and ask questions later (as long as I am protected) because honestly I have picked up a few great pieces by doing this... Yes, I'm still sour about that Royals Robinson pin which I posted on here before purchasing that sold for $250 3 minutes after I asked for opinions. Whoever did that on here had no problem doing it so that is their method I guess (lay low and pounce quietly) much like mine is buy first and learn along the way by asking questions after. I have lost no money by doing this and have harmed no one in the process. They people who were selling these items were the deceptive ones not me. You ask about my ebay ID as if I get buyers remorse. What I get is not buyers remorse. I have never bought something "REAL" and then returned it ever. I only return fake items. So as long as you are kosher on ebay you would have no reasons for me returning anything. It's basically a way to keep the scammers from getting over on me. If it's too good to be true it probably is (however I lose nothing if I am protected).

Sorry for the rant, however I just don't understand why I am met with backlash for simply asking opinions on items. I buy them to keep not to resell anyways. It's not like I'm asking you to buy it from me. I would just like opinions to see if it is worth keeping and I would have no problems returning the favor for items I am knowledgeable about.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

[QUOTE=felada;1618441]Because you contribute nothing to the board besides
Asking for help for your latest purchase

I ask for help to learn. How else am I supposed to learn? A book or even the internet can not teach what some people have learned that are
On this bird from years of seeing and touching items. The internet can only help so much. When the older generation is gone one day it is mine that will have to keep the hobby going, and unfortunately we aren't old enough to know somethings from the 50's as we simply weren't around. I ask questions to learn...not to brag or not contribute. There are experts in this chat that are far more knowledgeable so I sit here daily and read posts and ask for help once a week usually.

[khkco4bls]

And this is exactly why I hate net54 most times.. tearing up ur own posters..

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by khkco4bls

And this is exactly why I hate net54 most times.. tearing up ur own posters..

+1

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

+1

Now that is hilarious.

I will give you my honest grown up opinion. What you are doing is gambling and when you lose you cry foul. Seriously do you expect to pay 5-8 cents on the dollar for a real item. If it turned out real would you have sent the seller the difference?

I have done the same thing. When I instantly jump on a item at 5-8 cents on the dollar like the glove you purchased and it turns out to be fake. I put on my big boy pants and take the hit like an adult who takes responsibility for his own actions.

If this offends you I can post a picture of a participation trophy and tell you good job.

[sbfinley]

Not that I have a dog on the fight, but to me there is a big difference in paying retail and getting a bad item and and paying pennies on the dollar on a long shot. If you've spent as much in the hobby recently as you state you have I'd hope you'd know close to retail what an authentic gamer's value is - and it ain't $250.

One of two things happened: either someone was fishing for a sucker and snagged one, will take the item back and your $20 and go fishing again. Or - you tried talking someone who didn't know better down from 10% of an items true value to 4% and ended up burning yourself. Either way it's your world and you can play in it however you please, but don't get upset if that gives some people a unsavory opinion of you because really nothing in this makes you look very good. Live and learn. Happy collecting.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Now that is hilarious.

I will give you my honest grown up opinion. What you are doing is gambling and when you lose you cry foul. Seriously do you expect to pay 5-8 cents on the dollar for a real item. If it turned out real would you have sent the seller the difference?

I have done the same thing. When I instantly jump on a item at 5-8 cents on the dollar like the glove you purchased and it turns out to be fake. I put on my big boy pants and take the hit like an adult who takes responsibility for his own actions.

If this offends you I can post a picture of a participation trophy and tell you good job.

How is it gambling if I am covered? I simply do not get it? I guess my viewpoint is a lot different than peoples here. The world is changing now guys. I know someone else just said they spent 30 years in the hobby which I commend, but gone is the days when you HAVE to go out to find a item. The internet has connected millions and millions of people who can now share opinions with the click of a button. Whether people like it or not, it's changing. You can actually. It something and be protected by either your credit card company or eBay. Gone are the days of getting burned and having to take it. The participation trophy thing is funny because it explains the world today, however that is the generation below me. We didn't have those when I was growing up, and I didn't have much growing up either but was able to get where I am now by asking tons of questions (like I do here) learning and getting back up (in the hobby and real life). I have the internet at my disposal which many didn't have growing up, but I can honestly say that most the people here have a certain viewpoint because they HAD to do things a certain way growing up because there was no internet. People HAD to travel for information and go places to learn things. I joined this forum to learn which I have been doing. I have spent probably 1000 on books this past year ( from autograph reference books, to pin books to card books etc).
I'm genuinely trying (but in my own way as the times have changed), but for someone that says I need a participation trophy and need to put my big boy pants on is funny). I'm 31, but there are so many big babies in here that are so much older that are just sour grapes. If I had a nickel for every time I've read someone's posts who asked questions on here and was met by a snyde remark I'd have at least 100 bucks.lol seriously this is a hobby and we are all in it together whether you like it or not. My generation is what you are gonna need if you ever wanna cash out of these items you now hold. But people on here need to lose the "condescension approach". Just my 2 cents

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Sorry for the rant, however I just don't understand why I am met with backlash for simply asking opinions on items. I buy them to keep not to resell anyways. It's not like I'm asking you to buy it from me. I would just like opinions to see if it is worth keeping and I would have no problems returning the favor for items I am knowledgeable about.

You are met with backlash because you represented yourself as asking for very little help...but in fact that is what most of your posts are about.

For many of us we have spent hours and hours and years and years learning about the hobby. For me it is more than 30. I didn't have Net54 to teach me about things..I did it the hard way and earned it. There are no safety nets in antique stores, flea markets or shows. You spend your time asking questions, touching and feeling. You invest the time to learn what the pricing should be before you make a purchase and then make the best deal possible. Sometimes you win and make a great find and other times it turns out to be not so great and you suck it up and move onto the next item.

I can tell you that you don't become an expert on photos or game used equipment because you made a few purchases on eBay. Get out to some local shows and do your own research. Talk to dealers and ask lots of questions. I find that memorabilia dealers are more chatty about their items because there aren't published price guides and grading services like on the card side of the hobby.

Just one mans opinions, good luck to you in your future collecting endeavors.

Jeff