Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Not to beat a dead horse or bust anyone's chops, but I think that 1964 Browns pennant HAS to be a later release.

It looks like the later, stiffer, polyester-infused "felt."

The hole suggests it had a cardboard "hang strip" (perhaps Wincraft?) attached to it. Are there maybe four staple holes on the border?

Lack of tassels (not sure if this is indicative or anything).

On baseball pennants, a league logo (MLB) denotes 1969 or later. Not sure when NFL licensing came into being.

Again, not trying to disparage that pennant....just adding my two cents for sake of debate.

[ooo-ribay]

^^^^ Jason beat me to it.

[Showdawg]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Not to beat a dead horse or bust anyone's chops, but I think that 1964 Browns pennant HAS to be a later release.

It looks like the later, stiffer, polyester-infused "felt."

The hole suggests it had a cardboard "hang strip" (perhaps Wincraft?) attached to it. Are there maybe four staple holes on the border?

Lack of tassels (not sure if this is indicative or anything).

On baseball pennants, a league logo (MLB) denotes 1969 or later. Not sure when NFL licensing came into being.

Again, not trying to disparage that pennant....just adding my two cents for sake of debate.

Yes...The 64 Browns white pennant came out in the late 90s, maybe early 2000s....I remember when they came out, some sellers were trying to pass them off as vintage....it was so obvious that they werent

[Showdawg]

Love to add this one to my collection too....anybody seen one?

[Fballguy]

Is there no such thing as an original version of this Browns pennant? Or is there and someone just decided to reprint it?

I just picked that one up last week so I still have time to return it. Thought the price was too good...but a lot of people don't know what a pennant is worth so didn't worry too much about it.

How about the one that came with it? For a reprint, the white one still seems relatively uncommon. I don't remember seeing one on eBay previously and there are none now.

eBay item number:351942251790

Have to do a sold item search for it to come up.

[Fballguy]

Also...When did the transition occur from soft felt to hard "felt"? I thought mid-60's seemed about right.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Also...When did the transition occur from soft felt to hard "felt"? I thought mid-60's seemed about right.

That one is new. The stiff style started in the late 60's, but that one is much thinner and made of all synthetic material. They started with a stiffer felt, then went to a thicker synthetic, then went to a thinner synthetic in the mid 70's. It's pretty much stayed that style until recently when they started printing again on the softer thicker synthetic (i.e.: Mitchell and Ness style).

[Fballguy]

Still weird that there aren't more of them floating around. I can't even get it to come up in a google search. Even if I include "1964" and or "reproduction" Others do come up...but not this one.

Don't doubt that it's modern...just surprised, like most modern reproductions, that there aren't a lot of them out there.

[dwr11]

Originally Posted by Showdawg

Love to add this one to my collection too....anybody seen one?

I sold a pennant just like this on eBay 3 or so months ago. It was in similar condition to this one.

[Showdawg]

Originally Posted by dwr11

I sold a pennant just like this on eBay 3 or so months ago. It was in similar condition to this one.

This is the picture of that pennant that sold on eBay a few months back...I was going to make an offer, then t was gone....

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by dwr11

I sold a pennant just like this on eBay 3 or so months ago. It was in similar condition to this one.

I see Jim Brown, Bobby Mitchell, Pat Summerall, Norm Snead, Andy Robustelli, Abe Woodson, Timmy Brown, Maxie Baughan, Norm Van Brocklin, Pete Retzlaff, Tommy Mason, Forrest Gregg...

I think.