Signed T3's

[conor912]

Interesting. Most of those players lived 50+ years after 1911 so there was plenty of time, plus I'd think the size would have made them more preferable than a T206, of which there seem to be plenty of signed copies, relatively speaking.

[Jobu]

My guess is that we see so few signed T3s because of their size. I am not an autograph expert, but I think a lot of pre-card show autographs were probably obtained through the mail. Much easier to mail a smaller card or notecard than a T3.

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by Jobu

My guess is that we see so few signed T3s because of their size. I am not an autograph expert, but I think a lot of pre-card show autographs were probably obtained through the mail. Much easier to mail a smaller card or notecard than a T3.

Good point, Bryan.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by brass_rat

Good point, Bryan.

+1, though to see none....ever? Any of us?

[Jobu]

Originally Posted by conor912

+1, though to see none....ever? Any of us?

Well, Hank has seen one (and what a one it must be).

I checked PSA for a few numbers:

T3 graded: 6,163
T3 signed: 2 (Devlin and Matty) + the HOF's WaJo=3. But let's call it 2 and assume 1 of PSA's was a mistake.
% signed: 2/6,163*100 = 0.032%

T206 graded: 197,763
T206 signed: 58
% signed: 58/197,763 = 0.029%

All the usual caveats that come with pop report data exist, but if we assume that T3 were a lot less likely to be signed due to their size and the much smaller number of both subjects and cards produced, I don't know that we should expect that there are more than 2-5 signed cards.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Well, Hank has seen one (and what a one it must be).

I checked PSA for a few numbers:

T3 graded: 6,163
T3 signed: 2 (Devlin and Matty) + the HOF's WaJo=3. But let's call it 2 and assume 1 of PSA's was a mistake.
% signed: 2/6,163*100 = 0.032%

T206 graded: 197,763
T206 signed: 58
% signed: 58/197,763 = 0.029%

All the usual caveats that come with pop report data exist, but if we assume that T3 were a lot less likely to be signed due to their size and the much smaller number of both subjects and cards produced, I don't know that we should expect that there are more than 2-5 signed cards.

So by that calculation those could be the only 3 in existence. Certainly possible, but I'd venture to guess there's more out there buried in family heirlooms....at least I'd like to think so.