52 Mantle's. Will they sell for asking?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am waiting to see the spin from the folks who think a 7 is a 200K card before commenting.

A 7 should be a $550K card. Wasn't there a PSA 4 or 5 that was listed on eBay a while back for 250K?

Plus that 7 is not in a PSA slab and not centered.

[botn]

Anyone who bought a 52 Topps Mantle over this past summer might want to buy a second one now and dollar cost average. Better yet maybe wait until March when they can get an even better deal. Yikes. That was a pretty nice SGC 84 too.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by botn

Anyone who bought a 52 Topps Mantle over this past summer might want to buy a second one now and dollar cost average. Better yet maybe wait until March when they can get an even better deal. Yikes. That was a pretty nice SGC 84 too.

That is what I thought. It looked like it might be a Rosen find Mantle, just oc.

Heritage has a PSA 8 coming up in February. We will see if the card is still strong at the top end.

[Peter_Spaeth]

In fairness, the 6 didn't hit reserve, but it had 4 bids, I think the website just defaults to the opening (40) when it doesn't sell.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In fairness, the 6 didn't hit reserve, but it had 4 bids, I think the website just defaults to the opening (40) when it doesn't sell.

What would that sgc 6 brought 6 months ago?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

What would that sgc 6 brought 6 months ago?

Many American dollars.

[botn]

Originally Posted by rats60

That is what I thought. It looked like it might be a Rosen find Mantle, just oc.

Heritage has a PSA 8 coming up in February. We will see if the card is still strong at the top end.

The 84 does look like a Rosen find card. As for the 8, I think it will do well. Think that part of the market is still holding, at least on that card.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by bnorth

A 7 should be a $550K card. Wasn't there a PSA 4 or 5 that was listed on eBay a while back for 250K?

Plus that 7 is not in a PSA slab and not centered.

If a PSA 4 or 5 sold for that much, it means just one thing: the [transient] investor/buyers are still with us. The virtually endless stream of these cards at every major [and minor] auction makes it abundantly clear that the smart ones are not the buyers, but the sellers. Once the investor crowd heads for other pastures, values will drop to what true collectors will pay for what might, at best, charitably be termed a somewhat scarce card. Just my $2.50 worth. Truly amazing how this market for that card resembles tulip-mania!

Best of luck,

Larry

[irv]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

If a PSA 4 or 5 sold for that much, it means just one thing: the [transient] investor/buyers are still with us. The virtually endless stream of these cards at every major [and minor] auction makes it abundantly clear that the smart ones are not the buyers, but the sellers. Once the investor crowd heads for other pastures, values will drop to what true collectors will pay for what might, at best, charitably be termed a somewhat scarce card. Just my $2.50 worth. Truly amazing how this market for that card resembles tulip-mania!

Best of luck,

Larry

I'm not sure about that? The 52 Mantle is an iconic card and is coveted by many/most in the collector world.
I think there will be lulls or corrections occasionally but I don't think the card will ever fall out of favor by the collector or investor.

2 recent sales, not that they necessarily reflect anything, but these cards never fail to sell no matter how many are available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...vip=true&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351930771313...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by irv

I'm not sure about that? The 52 Mantle is an iconic card and is coveted by many/most in the collector world.
I think there will be lulls or corrections occasionally but I don't think the card will ever fall out of favor by the collector or investor.

2 recent sales, not that they necessarily reflect anything, but these cards never fail to sell no matter how many are available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...vip=true&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351930771313...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Those 2 PSA copies sold for SGC prices.....

[irv]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Those 2 PSA copies sold for SGC prices.....

Yeah, certainly they aren't garnering the prices like they did back in the summer, but that also can be said about most cards that were selling for huge money back then too.

Like many have noticed "I can't give cards away" currently there is a definite lull happening, imo.

But, being not near as knowledgeable as most on here, is this normal for this time of year, or does this happen occasionally where product/listings slow down?

I have noticed only 3-4 pages on E-Bay of 52 Topps cards where I normally see over double that, or at least 10 pgs of listings.

[Republicaninmass]

Lull before "tax refunds burning a hole in people's pockets"

[Leon]

'52 Mantle isn't quite Tulip Mania, imho. "Pet Rock" maybe, but no way Tulip Mania.
....Great looking examples still bring strong prices, relative to their grade. Visual appeal sells '52 Mantles in the upper ends of their brackets to the lower ends of the few brackets above them..Individual examples can be shown to sway any discussion. again, just my opinion...

Originally Posted by ls7plus

If a PSA 4 or 5 sold for that much, it means just one thing: the [transient] investor/buyers are still with us. The virtually endless stream of these cards at every major [and minor] auction makes it abundantly clear that the smart ones are not the buyers, but the sellers. Once the investor crowd heads for other pastures, values will drop to what true collectors will pay for what might, at best, charitably be termed a somewhat scarce card. Just my $2.50 worth. Truly amazing how this market for that card resembles tulip-mania!

Best of luck,

Larry

[botn]

The Card That Fell To Earth starring Mickey Mantle

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...entoryid=33602

https://goldinauctions.com/Spectacul...-LOT28450.aspx


https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

https://goldinauctions.com/1952_Topp...-LOT27931.aspx

Kids, don't try this at home.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by botn

The Card That Fell To Earth starring Mickey Mantle

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...entoryid=33602

https://goldinauctions.com/Spectacul...-LOT28450.aspx


https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

https://goldinauctions.com/1952_Topp...-LOT27931.aspx

Kids, don't try this at home.

not a huge drop...within 20% (and maybe just 1 or 2 bidding slots.)...if i saw it go down by 50% than that would be newsworthy..the card can easily go up 20% now from the last sale, also need more than one sale for a trend.....time will tell

[botn]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

not a huge drop...within 20% (and maybe just 1 or 2 bidding slots.)...if i saw it go down by 50% than that would be newsworthy..the card can easily go up 20% now from the last sale, also need more than one sale for a trend.....time will tell

LOL. They are the same exact cards. 20% reduction in price over a short period of time in what most have been touting as a strong 52 Topps Mantle market, is not a good sign. Those are not reassuring numbers but if they are to you, cool!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by botn

LOL. They are the same exact cards. 20% reduction in price over a short period of time in what most have been touting as a strong 52 Topps Mantle market, is not a good sign. Those are not reassuring numbers but if they are to you, cool!

i agree that we are talking about cards not losing value versus cards that are going up which is a different ballgame.

But again, in a short period of time, whoever was willing to pay the most back then still probably still would be paying the most now. So now its an underbidder on the last action they may of won it. I agree, you cant buy a Mantle now in mid grade and see a profit in 3 months paying the Vig.

With most cards due the buyer premium you will lose 20% if you were to sell the card immediately again. Thus, seeing a card selling for 20% or less to me in one lone re-sell of the same card in a short period of time isnt a trend. But yeah its not like we are talking about a hot card right now i agree.

[Canofcorn]

Just sold my SGC 4 via Goldin. I was hoping for 1 more bid, but that's fine.

My wife is on cloud 9, it's all about perspective I guess.

Loved owning it but it's on to the next one!

Going Trout fishing

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

not a huge drop...within 20% (and maybe just 1 or 2 bidding slots.)...if i saw it go down by 50% than that would be newsworthy..the card can easily go up 20% now from the last sale, also need more than one sale for a trend.....time will tell

35 k drop not chump change. And that really nice sgc 4 under 30, werent people paying 40 and up for nice 4s not a few months ago?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

35 k drop not chump change. And that really nice sgc 4 under 30, werent people paying 40 and up for nice 4s not a few months ago?

a a few months before that they were paying 25-30k.....canofcorn thought his card would sell for 30k (which was the center of the range) so the market is still there and a trend isnt just one sale, if someone with a 30k card could save some of that buyers premium in a direct deal the margin would be even less..