Selig and Schuerholz Elected to HOF

[Jeffrompa]

<---- shaking head , Bud " light " Selig , HOFer .

[oldjudge]

Every commissioner who served more than a month is in the HOF. It's a joke, but probably considered one of the perks of the job.

[clydepepper]

I am honest enough to say that I, like everyone I talked to back then, thoroughly enjoyed the homerun chase of 1998.

McGwire and Sosa were both easy to like and to cheer for.

It would have been easy enough to see the red flags, but we did not.

If Bud Selig got 'filthy rich' while 'overseeing' the steroid era...so did
EVERYONE else in MLB...even the pitchers serving them up.

The owners (for whom the commissioner works) all kept quiet while they raked in the big bucks, content with what was goin on.

It's very easy to have 20-20 hind-sight and I'm the first to admit that I
was pulled in by those who turned out to be cheaters.

These days, the two things that I hate the most about those times are
that McGwire lied to Mrs. Maris's face and Barry Bonds 'passed' the great
Hank Aaron...and, in doing so, he, along with all the other 'roiders' have
forever changed the way I look at the all-time HR list and even how often
I even check it.

I have greater appreciation for Griffey and Thome because I firmly believe that their totals were achieved without 'help'.

One thing I will not do is say that I did not enjoy all the homeruns at the
time they were being hit.

You guys need to get off your high horse and 'fess up.



hcry

[pclpads]

If Bud Light is in, there is hope for Gen. Eckert.

[glynparson]

I'd put Bonds and Clemens in without hesitation. The sanctimony is laughable. The hall isn't filled with saints and honest men. Plenty of tubes and liars. Put them in for what they did on the field. If all it took was popping a pill to be great please explain Jeremy Giambi and Ozzie canseco.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I'd put Bonds and Clemens in without hesitation. The sanctimony is laughable. The hall isn't filled with saints and honest men. Plenty of tubes and liars. Put them in for what they did on the field. If all it took was popping a pill to be great please explain Jeremy Giambi and Ozzie canseco.

Then Joe Jackson needs to go in. My philosophy is if you are going to put in cheaters, you start with him. Then after another 50 years, you can put in Rose. Then after another 20 years, you can put in Bonds and Clemens.

The HOF standard was set with a guy who it was never proven that he actually cheated, but knew about those cheating. So, if you are keeping him out of the HOF for 80 years running, those actual cheaters should be held out at least that long. My opinion is that integrity should matter and all known steroid cheaters should be permanently banned from the HOF.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And the difference between steroids and the amphetamines that were prevalent in the 60s is.....