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Old 10-28-2016, 06:40 PM
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Sitting out to win a title is cowardly. Period. Be a mensch, either win it or lose it by playing. Missing midseason games has nothing to do with it.
Thats mishigas..

The guy did win it, he played more games than the other guy. If going on cowardly there are so many things to look at.

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Maybe the guy that won the title and played in more games also played in more games at much less than 100% (which would cause more reasons to make more outs) versus the guy that came in second

If you played 145 or whatever games who cares about missing the last game especially when you have more at bats than the guy chasing you.. (also assuming games are meaningless and team wants to give a prospect a chance to play etc)

DJ 552 at bats. D. Murphy 531 at bat.

DJ. had 19 more at bats....so apparently daniel murphy did more sitting out, or choosing not to play hurt etc.

all games count and at bats. Its too easy to say its cowardly not playing the last game when you dont know how the second guy arrived to his batting average (ie. played in less games, didnt play at all when slightly hurt and im sure many more things can be looked at)
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Old 10-29-2016, 08:41 AM
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Ted Williams entered the last two games of the 1941 season at .3995. Had he sat out, his average would have rounded up to .400. At least according to legend, Ted scoffed at the idea of sitting out a meaningless doubleheader against the A's to preserve his .400. He played, and Connie Mack instructed his pitchers not to let up on him. He went 6 for 8. That is a mensch.
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Ted Williams entered the last two games of the 1941 season at .3995. Had he sat out, his average would have rounded up to .400. At least according to legend, Ted scoffed at the idea of sitting out a meaningless doubleheader against the A's to preserve his .400. He played, and Connie Mack instructed his pitchers not to let up on him. He went 6 for 8. That is a mensch.
Batting title already in hand so bad analogy. Plus in 1941, a sacrifice fly, in which Ted had 6, was counted as an at-bat and an out. (so he still would of hit over .400 using the current batting methods even if o-fer whatever.)

I know a guy had 40 homers and last game of year he didnt sit out, he hit and you know what, he still ended up with the magical 40 homers thats kismet
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Batting title already in hand so bad analogy. Plus in 1941, a sacrifice fly, in which Ted had 6, was counted as an at-bat and an out. (so he still would of hit over .400 using the current batting methods even if o-fer whatever.)

I know a guy had 40 homers and last game of year he didnt sit out, he hit and you know what, he still ended up with the magical 40 homers thats kismet
Jake I think the next edition of the dictionary should have your picture next to the definition of non-sequitur.
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Jake I think the next edition of the dictionary should have your picture next to the definition of non-sequitur.
yeah i know. Didn't realize we were getting grades.

But still interesting that Williams had 6 more 'outs' that year that in the present day are not considered outs. So not so easy to compare even batting averages from today in the past as the rules of what was counted as an 'out' on your batting average has changed
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