Today's Game Ballot

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Sivart31

I was surprised there was no love for Jim Leyland...is he not eligible yet? I never understood how it worked for managers.

it's 5 years after retirement like players, I think he was working for someone's front office recently which might have kept him officially "active"

ETA: he last managed in 2013 for the Tigers, so he won't be eligible until after the 2018 season. apparently, front office work does not count towards eligibility, only "on the field" work like playing or managing. So, he's just not eligible for initial induction yet due to time!


I bet he gets in.

[mr2686]

Well, for those of you with no love for Selig, I would counter that he had to go up against the baseball union for testing. You can't just say he was an enabler. Also, he brought the wild card games to the playoffs, which in my opinion, has made for not only exciting playoffs, but also allowed a lot of fans to cheer on their teams even when there was no chance of winning the division.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Well, for those of you with no love for Selig, I would counter that he had to go up against the baseball union for testing. You can't just say he was an enabler. Also, he brought the wild card games to the playoffs, which in my opinion, has made for not only exciting playoffs, but also allowed a lot of fans to cheer on their teams even when there was no chance of winning the division.

The good:

massive financial growth of the game
wildcard
finally got a good drug rule in place
didn't cave in to the "robot strikezone"
didn't reinstate Pete Rose (because Pete hasn't earned it yet)

the bad:

took too long for drug rules (tho 50% falls on the union)
stupid all star game/home field advantage rubbish
instant replay is a debacle
the 1994 strike


I think that being Commish for so long and growing the game he deserves it, but I can see the argument against him

[yanks12025]

George Steinbrenner should 100% be in the hall of fame.

[Sivart31]

How were Cox and Torre who retired in 2010 able to get inducted in 2014 then? The whole system for managers is really weird.

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

The good:

massive financial growth of the game
wildcard
finally got a good drug rule in place
didn't cave in to the "robot strikezone"
didn't reinstate Pete Rose (because Pete hasn't earned it yet)

the bad:

took too long for drug rules (tho 50% falls on the union)
stupid all star game/home field advantage rubbish
instant replay is a debacle
the 1994 strike


I think that being Commish for so long and growing the game he deserves it, but I can see the argument against him

Another for 'the bad':
Let Ryan Braun keep his MVP award after being pegged as a juicer. IIRC, the results of the drug tests were known before the MVP votes were revealed. You cannot tell me with a straight face that the fact Braun was a Brewer had nothing to do with that 'do nothing' decision.

and another:
While baseball did bring in more $$, it was passed by the NFL and college football, and lost considerable ground to the NBA and college basketball.