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Old 09-17-2016, 02:55 PM
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The market for vintage baseball cards in 2002 was completely different than it is today. The blue chip cards ('55 Topps Clemente, '52 Topps Mantle, '54 Topps Aaron, '51 Bowman Mays, to name a few) have seen their selling prices skyrocket.

I know it sucks to see a card you had selling for an astronomical amount, but every man that has collected cards seriously has witnessed something similar. "I couldn't get xx for xx card in xx, but now it's selling for xx". Or, "I should have bought xx in xx when it was selling for xx."

And Rickey Henderson, in 2002, was still playing. Today, he's retired, and a Hall of Famer. I would also expect that PSA's grading standards are much more stringent today.

Lots of factors go into what you're seeing.
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The market for vintage baseball cards in 2002 was completely different than it is today. The blue chip cards ('55 Topps Clemente, '52 Topps Mantle, '54 Topps Aaron, '51 Bowman Mays, to name a few) have seen their selling prices skyrocket.

I know it sucks to see a card you had selling for an astronomical amount, but every man that has collected cards seriously has witnessed something similar. "I couldn't get xx for xx card in xx, but now it's selling for xx". Or, "I should have bought xx in xx when it was selling for xx."

And Rickey Henderson, in 2002, was still playing. Today, he's retired, and a Hall of Famer. I would also expect that PSA's grading standards are much more stringent today.

Lots of factors go into what you're seeing.
back in the mid-1980s I had a 1954 Aaron, Mays and one of the Williams cards (probably in 2016-speak PSA 4-5's) that I
traded to a dealer at a card show for these 7 1948 Leafs plus a few commons (NO SPs)....

sure, they're not all beautiful (the Spahn has tape residue at corners on back as well as the corner clip) but to this day, I'm
still happy I made the trade, as I still have them today - and RAW.

never chased the set/never will, and the desire to upgrade just isn't there, and I'm happy they're still here!

while there's plenty of stuff I sold or traded back in the day, I had a few of each of the above 54 Topps when I made the deal.

I absolutely agree, Bill - and others - that we've all played the "shoulda/coulda/woulda" hindsight game at some point or another
and more than likely will continue to do so as we see the prices skyrocket, but...


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Old 09-17-2016, 05:55 PM
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sure, they're not all beautiful
They look pretty awesome to me!
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Old 09-18-2016, 06:16 PM
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yeah nice cards!
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Old 09-18-2016, 06:36 PM
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Oh, yes they are.

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Oh, yes they are.
thanks, Bill (and others) - while the cards DO have their individual faults, my "they're not all beautiful" was in regards to the "PSA 10s" title of the thread - I'm more than happy with all/each of them, but wanted to stay as on topic as possible with the OP's theme.

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As someone putting the 1980 set together in PSA 10 (about 40%), this makes me sad. I don't have $35,000 for one card. I have about 10 of them in 9's, and 4 of them I can't see anything wrong. I hate the crack and resub game. But for $35,000, I guess I can do it.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:37 PM
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It's not worth it, Rob. If you're looking for the very best eye appeal humanly possible, a PSA 9 is more than good enough.

I think the whole registry game is ridiculous. It's a bunch of people showing off how much money they've spent. Because if you need an electron microscope to find a flaw in a PSA 9 that makes it inferior to a 10, you're doing it wrong. At that point, it becomes a registry score, and bragging rights are more important than the cards themselves.

I'm building the 1975 Topps set in a PSA 8, and I'm completely happy with what I've got thus far. I look at a card like this...



and I'm tickled pink. If one of the corners has the tiniest hint of white, or if the centering left to right is only 52/48....who cares? I could warp back to 1975, and open 1,000 packs trying to find this same card in that identical condition.

I'm very happy to have what I do. It's just not worth obsessing over, to me.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:34 AM
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It's not worth it, Rob. If you're looking for the very best eye appeal humanly possible, a PSA 9 is more than good enough.

I think the whole registry game is ridiculous. It's a bunch of people showing off how much money they've spent. Because if you need an electron microscope to find a flaw in a PSA 9 that makes it inferior to a 10, you're doing it wrong. At that point, it becomes a registry score, and bragging rights are more important than the cards themselves.

I'm building the 1975 Topps set in a PSA 8, and I'm completely happy with what I've got thus far. I look at a card like this...



and I'm tickled pink. If one of the corners has the tiniest hint of white, or if the centering left to right is only 52/48....who cares? I could warp back to 1975, and open 1,000 packs trying to find this same card in that identical condition.

I'm very happy to have what I do. It's just not worth obsessing over, to me.
It may be about the score, but I guess I like the competition. I also have the 1997, and the 1999 sets almost finished. Those are the years my kids were born. I hope they like them when they are done.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:19 PM
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would should could I agree with all of yall. if it wasn't for the 6 figure difference? I would trade a 10 Ricky for your 48s today nice cards. when I closed the store I really couldn't give them away. I did continue to pick up mainly older commons and have got major head aches digging through them in the past week. I had no idea the higher graded cards were going for so much. I got a box of graded 8 n 9s and some 10s Griffey, Favre, Smith. a Brett 9 rc. with others selling 30 of them on e bay I will just keep it. I am going to join PSA I got some 50 through 70s cards that I think are worth grading? never had much luck with grading. all this said I do feel better about the cards I do have than I have in years. I have always tried to build sets with little interest in graded cards. don't miss understand me I do like graded cards. I did find quite a few cards that given some time I could if anyone is interested be willing to do some trading to complete raw sets?
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