Graig Kreindler's Chief Bender painting - All Hail the Chief!

[edhans]

Those are clearly different sweaters.

[bxb]

Originally Posted by edhans

Those are clearly different sweaters.

Agreed. On one, the elephant's trunk points down. On the other, it points back to his body.

[pherbener]

Originally Posted by bxb

Agreed. On one, the elephant's trunk points down. On the other, it points back to his body.

I think it points to his body on both. I think the ribbon is what's pointing down on the Meyers photo

[bxb]

Originally Posted by pherbener

I think it points to his body on both. I think the ribbon is what's pointing down on the Meyers photo

Yea, I think you're right. I stand corrected.

[edhans]

They're different logos, at least. Look closely at the elephant's legs, tusks, mouth and tail and you'll see what I mean.

[sac_bunt]

Originally Posted by edhans

They're different logos, at least. Look closely at the elephant's legs, tusks, mouth and tail and you'll see what I mean.

Ok thanks. IMO they are more similar then not.

[T206Jim]

Thanks for the interest guys. I believe the sweaters are one and the same, but we can each draw our own conclusions.

Does anyone have any information on the questions I have asked? Other photos of Bender in a sweater, copies of mine with a firm date on back or from a dated newspaper? Any info on the ribbon? I believe that although the trim and cap stripes may have been black the sweaters were blue, any confirmation on this?

Thanks!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by sac_bunt

Ok thanks. IMO they are more similar then not.

similar doesn't cut it they have to be identical. They are, to me, clearly not the same logo. The gap between the front legs is VERY different. The distance between the lower tusk and the jaw is VERY different. The length of the upper portion of the trunk is significantly different. You can't have the same sweater with ANY discrepancies let alone ones this large.

[sac_bunt]

Originally Posted by edhans

Those are clearly different sweaters.

Disagree. The similarities between the 1st & 2nd photos are:

1. Placement of the buttons (specifically the two that are aligned with the elephant.
2. The stitching patterns on the left shoulder & the horizontal line above the truck.
3. The hole on the left arm in photo 1 is faintly visible in photo 2.


Ed - Can you advise why you think they are different?