PWCC Plank currently on eBay PSA 2

[MVSNYC]

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

If there is a rule, I'm not aware. It was merely to point out the availability of a rare and valuable card.

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

[Topps206]

I've only seen a Plank once before.

[irv]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

I could be mistaken, but I believe those rules apply to our own BST sections, not E-Bay listings?

When members here post in BST, these discussions are not suppose to take place other than PM's.

From what I gather, E-Bay is fair game to discuss issues such as these.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by irv

I could be mistaken, but I believe those rules apply to our own BST sections, not E-Bay listings?

When members here post in BST, these discussions are not suppose to take place other than PM's.

From what I gather, E-Bay is fair game to discuss issues such as these.

Thats a whole different issue Irv. We should not be spamming BST listings with opinions or discussions, unless it's to ask a question about the card, or perhaps just to say nice card. I even saw a guy make an offer on one of Peter's listings right in the thread. Proper etiquette would be to PM an offer less than list price.

[swarmee]

Paraphrasing the Bible: I try not to point out specks in another's eye, lest I have a Plank in my own.

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Paraphrasing the Bible: I try not to point out specks in another's eye, lest I have a Plank in my own.

well-played, sir...

[Topps206]

The mere intention of this thread was to elicit discussion. That's all.

[pokerplyr80]

DS is right, no rule about outing any auction. I have seen Leon confirm this on a few occasions. There are those who don't like auctions being outed so they don't lose out on a card they're bidding. Anyone looking for a Plank isn't going to miss one at PWCC though.

As for the 15 CJ Matty, it looks like a 2 to me.

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by Topps206

The mere intention of this thread was to elicit discussion. That's all.

Topps206:

understood - and some of us greatly appreciate your doing so (and I'm not even a "card guy" as my first love, hobby-wise) but I certainly appreciate the rare and better stuff, and ANY constructive discussions - it's a significant card, and worthy of forum discussion.

thank you for starting the thread.

DS

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

already had this long discussion when i 'outed' a psa 5 Mantle Topps 1952 on ebay or something like that...its pretty much agreed that for these types of cards its no big deal to out these..

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

already had this long discussion when i 'outed' a psa 5 Mantle Topps 1952 on ebay or something like that..and i had the standard posters criticize me on that .its pretty much agreed that for these types of cards its no big deal to out these..

[Rookiemonster]

The paper loss on the right boarder looks like whiteout.
I really don't get how this is a two . I'm not sure if the price changes much from a one or a two I feel like a authentic slab would be just as good . You know this is excaly what the issue with graded cards is. It's one point but it's a completely what everyone was saying with the 1953 topps mays psa 10 . That card was given a 10 just because it is a condition sensitive set .

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

You know this is excaly what the issue with graded cards is.

Agreed. Funny how we continue to see regular grading discrepancies like this even with big name cards. Although the birth of grading with PSA and Bill Mastro's trimmed Wagner ushered in the initial controversy more than 25 years ago. PSA in particular seems to be wildly inconsistent on how they change standards over time. At the end of the day I suppose it just goes to show that excellence (or NM or VG or G or P...) is in the eye of the beholder, even among professional graders. I'll stick with how I learned to grade from hobby publications in the 1980's. I don't at all get how a card with paper loss like that (or whiteout or whatever it is...) would be a 2; any other T-206 common like that probably would have been a 1 all day long.