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Old 09-01-2016, 04:20 PM
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One definition/example of a low ball offer on one or both of these absolutely beautiful examples would probably be(just a guess) any offer submitted by
1952 boytoycollector. Then again I could be wrong.

By the way Jeff, gorgeous cards.
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Old 09-01-2016, 05:22 PM
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I've have learned along this Prewar Path of mine...
THaT it is BeTTar to make an Offer when appropriate,
And Preserve the Privilege of Knowledge
Of one such as the OP fir a possible Later Day!

CalliN one out because... WeLL...
JuST Because I want to be a Jacka$$ ~
I've Learn'd...
Has Nevar BeeN iN One's Self's BeST Interest!

We who have been here fir a bit...
Know what the OP Stands fir
& at the end of the Day, of a Price THaT would be Accept-able!

I've seen these Cards Before!
They are iconic in & to Our Hobby...

If I Really wanted any one of the 2 Cards...
I would Present an Amount
THaT would JuST "WoW" Jeff ~ So He Wouldn't Say No!!!

As Always my Friends...
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:49 PM
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One definition/example of a low ball offer on one or both of these absolutely beautiful examples would probably be(just a guess) any offer submitted by
1952 boytoycollector. Then again I could be wrong.

By the way Jeff, gorgeous cards.
nah i think it would be any offer by mikeheader...


i have had people message me on some cards though on some net54 seller listings advising they just made an offer that as 20% and more above a last recent sale and were told they were lowballing........when there is no price listed there is more of a chance of confusion of what a lowball offer...thats all im saying.. we have all made offers that we thought were the high end of the market to be told we are far too low..which for some means its a low ball offer..

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Old 09-01-2016, 07:26 PM
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we have all made offers that we thought were the high end of the market to be told we are far too low..which for some means its a low ball offer..

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I call bullshit! I havent... And as much time as you spend on this board you know what market prices are. If someone calls an offer of market or above lowball them the problem lies with them not with the offer!
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Id love to see an asking price but, as they say if u have to ask u cant afford it. Lol beautiful cards man wish i buy one. Hope they find a great new home.
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Id love to see an asking price but, as they say if u have to ask u cant afford it. Lol beautiful cards man wish i buy one. Hope they find a great new home.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:59 PM
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I call bullshit! I havent... And as much time as you spend on this board you know what market prices are. If someone calls an offer of market or above lowball them the problem lies with them not with the offer!
just because you havent doesnt mean it occurs a lot...i have had members PM me about this thread agreeing with me about what i put on this thread... you quote market price right? what do you think market price is on the cards? if the guy is asking for 5k more..would your market price quote be a low ball offer?

when theres no price listed, a 'market price' offer can be considered a low ball offer to the seller is all i am saying

i have had people argue with some of my pricing on cards with people offering 3000 (like the 54 Banks psa 7.5) or so and were quoting market price, yet i sold the cards for new market highs in the 5-6k range (and i had a few offers to choose from)...so were the 3k offers low ball offers? market price changes expecially in todays market.....what you may deem market price may be what someone else deems a lowball offer....especially if no price is listed so the perspective buyer has no idea that the seller is looking for an all time high and what the buyer thinks is 'market price' is 50% below what the seller thinks the card is worth..

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Old 09-03-2016, 04:43 AM
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Jake, the guy who just paid me twice what you offered on a card I was recently listing figured out what the market price for the card was. Get off my thread and do not make me any more offers. I am not selling any cards to an idiot like you. Somehow I've managed to sell two cards for over 50K in the past few weeks. People who want the cards figure it out. People who want to blather on about their difficulty in figuring out what market value is, despite all the pricing resources at their fingertips -- don't make me offers; we both know you're not getting the card.

This is a BST thread and not your shrink's couch. Do not post on my threads here any more.
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Old 09-03-2016, 05:55 AM
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In reference to Jeff's last comment, he is correct of course. No one, including me, Jake, JC or anyone else, should be making many comments in BST threads. It's not a sterile environment and if you want to say something is great looking that is fine. Other than that lets please leave discussions for the other forums not the BST places. If anyone has a problem with his please PM me and we can chat about it. .... Thanks.
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Old 09-03-2016, 01:41 PM
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Jake, the guy who just paid me twice what you offered on a card I was recently listing figured out what the market price for the card was. Get off my thread and do not make me any more offers. I am not selling any cards to an idiot like you. Somehow I've managed to sell two cards for over 50K in the past few weeks. People who want the cards figure it out. People who want to blather on about their difficulty in figuring out what market value is, despite all the pricing resources at their fingertips -- don't make me offers; we both know you're not getting the card.

This is a BST thread and not your shrink's couch. Do not post on my threads here any more.

leon when a guy is making stuff up or implying i wasnt fair on an offer for all to see, (and i dont know what card he is referring too) i believe i should know what hes referring. Hes also calling me an idiot and i made no name calling to him...and had zero attacks on him on this thread... i get that the issue of making too many comments on b/s/t thread here like many others on this thread and I was was not going to post anything more..but he's singling me out and calling me an idiot...


a little research and i figured out what calvin is referring too

it was a psa 7 rooke Jackie robinson leaf card.....no price listed....i had the audacity to offer 10,000 dollars cash as a first offer....and ZERO counter. or any response until now on net54.. so he insults me? If you listed the card for $20,000.00 i wouldnt of made you an offer of $10,000.00 cash. I do think $20,000 would of be deemed by many to be more than market price. I learned you had turned down $14,000 as well. So was $14,000 also a low ball offer since you got $20,000? To get $10,000 net in an auction you need to get $12,000 or so. There are advantages to cash as well. I really dont think its fair to call me an idiot on net54 when you didnt even respond to my offer. Especially since ZERO price was listed.

Like i said if you are looking for a record high, you may just want to post what you want instead of calling people idiots that make offers that are not considered lowball except to you. The last psa 7 sold for about 14k i believe. I made one offer with no response Again if you list the card for $20,000 i realize you want a sky high price and i dont make an offer. I dont believe there were any past sales of that card close to 20k. You sold the card for a ton, congrats..no need to imply i lowballed and call me an idiot

im sure some people will say here that my offer was terrible and i would ask them if they always offered the most they can offer with their first offer, and i also think there will be people that say my offer wasnt a lowball offer. I would submit that there will be at least a difference of opinion. If the people that criticize my offer believe the card was 'worth 15k', dont you think a 10k offer would of at least warranted a counter offer versus calling me an idiot? Thats all im saying. Heck you should see some of the offers i have gotten on my listings compared to what they sold for at an auction. I not go around and call people out saying that their offers were 2x less than what i sold the card for at auction (which is more reflective of a market price than one private buyer that blows away any prior sell price)


I believe this proves my point i was making on the thread..i not even realize he was the seller on the jackie..i was talking generally.... guess its my big loss i cant get your cards as the prices you want..

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Old 09-03-2016, 02:42 PM
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"i not even realize you were the seller on the jackie..i was talking generally..."

Putz, the last PSA sale on a Robinson Leaf 7 was 19.5, not 14. You offered 10 on that Robinson card despite that 19.5 sales price. You're a putz which is why I ignored your lowball offer. I received exactly what I asked for on that card, not a penny less. Oh and a 6 just sold for 12.2. Again, you're a putz. And I'm not sure why you didn't realize I was the seller of that card -- you PM'd me your lowball offer. Did you think you were PMing into a vacuum?

As for getting what I want on the cards I sell, I don't need the sales to eat. So I can promise you that every card I sell here I get for exactly my asking price. Because I don't need to sell them.

And if I want advice from a piece of shit moron like you, I'll run a red light and then make an appointment at your office. Slap a fifty down on the table and you can pontificate for an hour. The fact is everyone knows what a clown you are. So stop laying out your idiotic, barely decipherable advice on my threads; you're literally shitting the bed with your stupidity. Do not make me any more offers because I'm not selling you any cards.

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One definition/example of a low ball offer on one or both of these absolutely beautiful examples would probably be(just a guess) any offer submitted by
1952 boytoycollector. Then again I could be wrong.

By the way Jeff, gorgeous cards.
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