PSA Card Grading

[Harford20]

Agree with Exhibitman. Ted is a reprint. It appears to be the gray stock reprint.
Dave

[Favara]

Ok thanks, But why would PSA not send back labeled as reprint and assign it a PSA number?

[pokerplyr80]

You would probably get an answer if you call them directly and ask.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Favara

Ok thanks, But why would PSA not send back labeled as reprint and assign it a PSA number?

Because you asked them to authenticate a card from the 1930s. If you sent it in as 1980s Ted Williams reprint Exhibit, they might have slabbed it for you. But then again maybe not, because the intent was to deceive in the first place and they may only grade/slab cards that say "reprint" on them.

[steve B]

In pretty much any other hobby the grader/authenticator would slab or issue a cert with the ID corrected. Just one of the reasons our hobby and grading are a mess sometimes.

Steve B

[Exhibitman]

That card is not a reprint, as that term of art is used. The 1980 Exhibit series are reprints, made by the purchaser of the ESCO remains from the original plates. This card is a counterfeit. It was created some years ago by bootleggers who used actual cards to make it with the goal of deceiving buyers. There are a number of well-known counterfeit Exhibit formats including the gray chipboard backs like this one. I don't think any hobby TPG would certify a counterfeit. The only 'Exhibit' cards that are found legitimately with that different cardboard that I know of are the Canadian cards from the 1940s-1950s Exhibit sets. Like these:

[steve B]

Here's how to handle fakes.

It should also be noted that Fournier was one of the more famous forgers. Another was Sperati. Some of their forgeries have become a bit collectible since they make an excellent item for comparison and are usually cheaper than the originals.

From this page http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.com...Forgeries.html

Another thing to note to save you having to read the whole page, for that stamp there are originals, reprints done by the printer, and forgeries made to fool collectors. (The article is a bit interesting, and shows more forgeries than that one with explanations.)

Steve B

[buymycards]

Why wouldn't PSA just say "we didn't slab this card because it is a reprint or a fake"? "No holder" is pretty vague.